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Crazy, Wild, Wonderful December


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A thread to talk about trade / signing ideas leading up to the winter meetings on December 8th.

 

My crazy, wild, and wonderful ideas...

 

1.) Trade Quintana to the Braves for Justin Upton and Evan Gattis

 

2.) Sign Upton to an extension

 

3.) Trade Danks in any move that returns little prospects but some salary relief

 

4.) Sign Jon Lester

 

5.) Sign Jake Peavy

 

6.) Sign Luke Gregorson

 

7.) Trade Vicedo for minor leauge marbles

 

Rotation:

 

Sale

Peavy

Lester

Noesi

Rodon

 

Lineup:

 

Eaton ( CF )

Rameriz ( SS )

Abreu ( 1B / DH )

LaRoche ( 1B / DH )

Upton ( LF )

Galipse ( 3B )

Garcia ( RF )

Gattis ( C )

Simen ( 2B )

 

Bullpen:

 

Gregorson

Duke

Petricka

Guerra

Putnam

Webb

Surkamp / Garcia

Bassit ( 5th starter until Rodon is up )

 

Bench:

 

Flowers

Garcia

Sanchez

Shuck

 

One of the bench players is sent down when Rodon is called up.

 

Yes - this is completely insane and losing Jose hurts but hell - with that roster I'm f***ing dreaming again... Kenny. Oh, by the way Rick... If you want my help you can buy me out of my company, move me to Chicago, and I'll get to work. My salary requirements are only 25 million spread out across a 6 year term. My desk better have a floor to ceiling window overlooking home plate.

 

Your turn... Crazy, wild, wonderful... GO!

 

 

 

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If you are talking about pipe dreams rather than speculations, I will go with:

 

Trade Alexei and Danks to Dodgers for Kemp and Alex Guerrero and $20 mil paid over 5 years. Essentially you're getting Kemp for 5/$59 mil and Guerrero for Alexei and dead weight of Danks.

 

Trade Gillaspie and Beck to Padres for Grandal

 

Sign Chase Headley for 3/$39 mil

 

Sign Max Scherzer for 7/$161 mil

 

Sign Luke Hochevar for 1/$5 mil

 

Viciedo retires from baseball to replace Drew Carey as the host of TPIR

 

The payroll ends up around $112 million for 2015

 

Lineup:

 

CF Eaton (L)

3B Headley (S)

1B Abreu ®

DH LaRoche (L)

LF Kemp ®

RF Garcia ®

C Grandal (S)

SS Semien ®

2B Sanchez (S)

 

Rotation:

 

Sale

Scherzer

Quintana

Noesi

Bassit/Rodon

 

Bench:

Danks 2

Guerrero

Flowers

Saladino

 

Pen:

Petricka

Hochevar

Duke

Putnam

Webb

Guerra

Savery/Snoddy/Surkamp

 

Alternatively, we could trade Danks and Semien to BoSox for Shane Victorino rather than landing Kemp. Offense wouldn't be as lethal offensively, but should make us an insanely good defensive team.

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Alright, I'll throw out a massive trade that will never happen. Let's go with a crazy 3-way....

 

White Sox acquire: OF Mookie Betts, SP Ian Kennedy

Red Sox acquire: SP Frank Montas, SP Chris Bassit, SP Tyson Ross, RP Nate Jones, SS Franchy Cordero

Padres acquire: 3B Conor Gillaspie, OF Yoenis Cespedes

 

White Sox trade: 3B Conor Gillaspie, SP Frank Montas, SP Chris Bassit, RP Nate Jones

Red Sox trade: OF Yoenis Cespedes, OF Mookie Betts

Padres trade: SP Ian Kennedy, SP Tyson Ross, SS Franchy Cordero

 

 

 

And then the Sox sign McCarthy for 3 yr/$36M with a 4th year team option for $15M, $3M buy out.

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 12:17 AM)
White Sox acquire: OF Mookie Betts, SP Ian Kennedy

And then the Sox sign McCarthy for 3 yr/$36M with a 4th year team option for $15M, $3M buy out.

Another nice one. Too bad this isn't MLB The Show 2015, hey? :)

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ok, i will play but i will not go crazy, (nice song from prince)

 

Jon Lester lhp sp

 

Edinson Volquez rhp sp

 

Tim Stauffer rhp rp spot starter

 

Ed Lucas - trade Tex platoon hitter

 

Ichiro Suzuki outfielder going for 3,000 hits, 1 yr option 1yr

 

ok i lied, my crazy idea - Nelson Cruz. 2 yr option 3

 

 

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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 02:43 PM)
I love all my fellow Soxtalk members, but y'all are crazy.

Thank the lord none of you run my favorite team.

Your turn then or risk being branded as a charlatan - ooooohhhhhh.... ahhhhhh. :P

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:51 PM)
Your turn then or risk being branded as a charlatan - ooooohhhhhh.... ahhhhhh. :P

 

Move the fences back at the Cell.

Tell Hawk Harrilson it's time to retire.

Tell Rick Hahn to keep doing what he's doing.

Start selling Gluten free beer on all levels.

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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 12:22 AM)
Move the fences back at the Cell.

Tell Hawk Harrilson it's time to retire.

Tell Rick Hahn to keep doing what he's doing.

Start selling Gluten free beer on all levels.

 

i was really thinking of that. that would really throw the whole dynamics off.

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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 03:22 PM)
Move the fences back at the Cell.

Tell Hawk Harrilson it's time to retire.

Tell Rick Hahn to keep doing what he's doing.

Start selling Gluten free beer on all levels.

You hath prevailed :)

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Sox trade Lexi for the best SP they can get

Sox trade Gillaspie for the best RP they can get

Sox sign Nori Aoki, Chase Headley, and David Robertson

 

Eaton-Aoki-Abreu-LaRoche-Garcia-Headley-Semien-Flowers-Sanchez/Johnson

 

Sale-Q-SP-Danks-Noesi

 

Closer- Robertson

LH SU- Duke

RH SU- Petricka/Gillaspie trade acquisition(GTA)

Loogy- Surkamp

RH Relievers- Putnam, Guerra, Petricka/GTA

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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 03:17 AM)
Alright, I'll throw out a massive trade that will never happen. Let's go with a crazy 3-way....

 

White Sox acquire: OF Mookie Betts, SP Ian Kennedy

Red Sox acquire: SP Frank Montas, SP Chris Bassit, SP Tyson Ross, RP Nate Jones, SS Franchy Cordero

Padres acquire: 3B Conor Gillaspie, OF Yoenis Cespedes

 

White Sox trade: 3B Conor Gillaspie, SP Frank Montas, SP Chris Bassit, RP Nate Jones

Red Sox trade: OF Yoenis Cespedes, OF Mookie Betts

Padres trade: SP Ian Kennedy, SP Tyson Ross, SS Franchy Cordero

 

 

 

And then the Sox sign McCarthy for 3 yr/$36M with a 4th year team option for $15M, $3M buy out.

 

I am assuming you are not that familiar with Betts. He played 90% of his minor league games at 2B. He came up when Pedroia was hurt and showed a solid bat Unfortunately Pedroia is blocking him. So the Red Sox moved him to the outfield when Pedroia came back. He was just average in outfield since he was learning the position at ML level. If he is traded it will probably be as a 2B for value purposes. Otherwise Red Sox may send him back to AAA to learn CF. He struggled w throws from RF. Very solid hitter but also very small but used the Fenway wall to his advantage. .

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QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 04:49 PM)
Back to reality. Quintana is not getting traded. That'd be stupid.

You're right - it's not going to happen and is stupid... Putting money aside thou, what would you rather have...

 

1.) Jose Quintana

 

Or

 

2.) Justin Upton, Evan Gattis, and Jon Lester

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:12 AM)
You're right - it's not going to happen and is stupid... Putting money aside thou, what would you rather have...

 

1.) Jose Quintana

 

Or

 

2.) Justin Upton, Evan Gattis, and Jon Lester

 

or

3.) Quintana, Lester :headbang

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 07:12 PM)
You're right - it's not going to happen and is stupid... Putting money aside thou, what would you rather have...

 

1.) Jose Quintana

 

Or

 

2.) Justin Upton, Evan Gattis, and Jon Lester

I'd certainly rather have Quintana over 1 year of Upton and Gattis who really has no position.

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 10:13 PM)
Obviously- but I'm stating an Upton extension too. You don't think Gattis can catch?

No I don't - I don't think that there is any position he plays wells. He's a pretty good hitter, but nothing special.

The Braves aren't extending him; it's a trade for a rent then HOPE to extend him. Sign him next year instead. He's much better than any hitter on this year's market.

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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 28, 2014 -> 08:12 PM)
You're right - it's not going to happen and is stupid... Putting money aside thou, what would you rather have...

 

1.) Jose Quintana

 

Or

 

2.) Justin Upton, Evan Gattis, and Jon Lester

Literally, putting money aside is cheating in this one. Obviously more people would rather have the latter on players alone, but come on, it's 3 players and you're saying "putting money aside". One of those will cost $250 million over the next 7-8 years, one will cost $40 mil.

 

Let's try making the money approximately even. Who would you rather have

 

1. Quintana + Scherzer

 

or

 

2 Upton, Gattis, Lester.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 02:54 PM)
Literally, putting money aside is cheating in this one. Obviously more people would rather have the latter on players alone, but come on, it's 3 players and you're saying "putting money aside". One of those will cost $250 million over the next 7-8 years, one will cost $40 mil.

 

Let's try making the money approximately even. Who would you rather have

 

1. Quintana + Scherzer

 

or

 

2 Upton, Gattis, Lester.

 

even tho i like Lester, i will pick #1.

 

i have never been a fan of Upton

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2014 -> 06:54 AM)
Literally, putting money aside is cheating in this one. Obviously more people would rather have the latter on players alone, but come on, it's 3 players and you're saying "putting money aside". One of those will cost $250 million over the next 7-8 years, one will cost $40 mil.

 

Let's try making the money approximately even. Who would you rather have

 

1. Quintana + Scherzer

 

or

 

2 Upton, Gattis, Lester.

 

You're absolutely right. Stupid late night sleep deprived daddy brain statement. :)

 

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