kwill Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 1.I saw the Braves are going to Non-Tender both these guys. They both have surgery before last season. 2.The timetable for Tommy John Surgery Canidates is usually 12-14 months. One could imagine that both would be able to contribute to next seasons roster. 3. I would think they would be worth a flyers on with incentive laden deals. A team could probably give them two year deals. White Sox are in need of right handed starting pitching. At the very least, you could have them come out of the bullpen. 4. Both of them are in the prime of their careers so age is not a factor. The only negative is this is the second Tommy John Surgery for both of them.You wonder if the stuff will still be there. My Question Deal or No Deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (kwill @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 06:26 PM) 1.I saw the Braves are going to Non-Tender both these guys. They both have surgery before last season. 2.The timetable for Tommy John Surgery Canidates is usually 12-14 months. One could imagine that both would be able to contribute to next seasons roster. 3. I would think they would be worth a flyers on with incentive laden deals. A team could probably give them two year deals. White Sox are in need of right handed starting pitching. At the very least, you could have them come out of the bullpen. 4. Both of them are in the prime of their careers so age is not a factor. The only negative is this is the second Tommy John Surgery for both of them.You wonder if the stuff will still be there. My Question Deal or No Deal? Absolutely. Medlen has 2 years of control and Beachy has 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Fans of 29 teams are all saying the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Beachy is a converted position player, so the arm troubles were predictable. Medlen has had two TJSs. I would proceed with extreme caution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Charlie Haeger's Knuckles @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:45 PM) Beachy is a converted position player, so the arm troubles were predictable. Medlen has had two TJSs. I would proceed with extreme caution. I'd be all over Beachy on an incentive-laden deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:04 AM) I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps. there is 1 who is the sp, i would really like a chance at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:22 PM) there is 1 who is the sp, i would really like a chance at him. They both are SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:33 AM) They both are SP i would have thought Brandon was a rp due to the innings he threw. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...traderumors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 The question is whether anyone will offer them a major league deal. For us, that would require putting them on the 40 man and right now that's something I'd hesitate about a bit. If either are up for a minor league deal with a ST invite then they'll have their choice of teams to go to, and with our reputation we've got as good a chance as any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:42 AM) The question is whether anyone will offer them a major league deal. For us, that would require putting them on the 40 man and right now that's something I'd hesitate about a bit. If either are up for a minor league deal with a ST invite then they'll have their choice of teams to go to, and with our reputation we've got as good a chance as any. i know what you are saying, but lets look at this way, he has to be put on the 40 man roster for the waiver. just like Jones, after the allotted time, when Jones goes back on IR and if either one is not ready, then you attached them to the IR as well. there is room on the 40 list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) i know what you are saying, but lets look at this way, he has to be put on the 40 man roster for the waiver. just like Jones, after the allotted time, when Jones goes back on IR and if either one is not ready, then you attached them to the IR as well. there is room on the 40 list. There's 1 spot available right now and we're already removing people who I think could have contributed next year as much as these guys. I'd like to think we could do better with that open spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:50 AM) There's 1 spot available right now and we're already removing people who I think could have contributed next year as much as these guys. I'd like to think we could do better with that open spot. maybe, i am not disputing you here, but before he got hurt, he was a real nice surprise. stash him on the IR until he is ready, a nice inexpensive element to use. the sox can still squeeze that 40 man roster a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (hi8is @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 07:04 PM) I believe they both have had 2 TJ opps. I would not offer much th en. The esearch is not favorable with pitchers that have had more than one surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Speaking of rehabs, what happened to Tommie Hanson? Did he ask for his release from the Charlotte roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Isnt Beachy having setbacks in his recovery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Is anyone interested in Alexi Ogando from Texas or Everth Cabrera from San Diego? Both non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 It's really a shame that both of these guys have had awful luck with injuries. They both were so good when healthy. Medlen, in particular, was nasty during that 2nd half of 2012 when they moved him into the starting rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 10:22 PM) It's really a shame that both of these guys have had awful luck with injuries. They both were so good when healthy. Medlen, in particular, was nasty during that 2nd half of 2012 when they moved him into the starting rotation. Sometimes the reason they are so good is because they are throwing in a way they shouldn't which is why the ball moves differently and the reason they become injured. They would not be good withoutthe bad mechanics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 2, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Is anyone interested in Alexi Ogando from Texas or Everth Cabrera from San Diego? Both non-tendered. Ogando was pretty solid up until last year, would definitely take a look at him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'm sure Medlen would like a 1-year deal to regain his contractual value. Let's sign him for 1 year, then flip him midseason for prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I'm not sure if anyone has talked about it, but maybe Wesley Wright would be a nice pickup on a minor league deal. He looked solid last year for the Cubs and would add another lefty into the mix now that snoddy is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 05:11 AM) I'm not sure if anyone has talked about it, but maybe Wesley Wright would be a nice pickup on a minor league deal. He looked solid last year for the Cubs and would add another lefty into the mix now that snoddy is gone. Robin really sounded impressed by Surkamp during last September. I wouldn't be shocked to see him as the second lefty, while they look for a closer type righty out of the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 12:48 AM) I'm sure Medlen would like a 1-year deal to regain his contractual value. Let's sign him for 1 year, then flip him midseason for prospects. will he be ready in time to establish value? I thought i read both him and Beachy are looking at mid season returns from TJS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 02:30 PM) will he be ready in time to establish value? I thought i read both him and Beachy are looking at mid season returns from TJS at best yes, midseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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