GGajewski18 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo · 8m 8 minutes ago Sources: #Dodgers may be willing to make Zack Greinke available in trade talks with opt-out next year looming http://sbnation.com/e/7095054 Could come cheaper with potential of him opting out. But could you imagine Sale, Greinke, Quintana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:16 PM) Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo · 8m 8 minutes ago Sources: #Dodgers may be willing to make Zack Greinke available in trade talks with opt-out next year looming http://sbnation.com/e/7095054 Could come cheaper with potential of him opting out. But could you imagine Sale, Greinke, Quintana. Could you imagine what our farm system would look like after acquiring Greinke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:29 PM) Could you imagine what our farm system would look like after acquiring Greinke? Who cares? He isn't a one year rental, we would have him till he's 34, that's as good as it's going to get. I'd listen if Dodgers are willing to throw in some money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Greinke>Samardzija, so it all depends on the cost and whether or not this is part of an Alexei deal, which it probably would have to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 When we were interested in him a few seasons ago, wasn't he quoted saying he hates pitching at our ballpark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 12:45 AM) When we were interested in him a few seasons ago, wasn't he quoted saying he hates pitching at our ballpark? He doesn't like Chicago, it's well known. He specifically had a beef with Q back in the day. I'm sure it's nothing he couldn't be talked into but it doesn't help imo. That said, Sox don't have the pieces to get this done and they aren't close enough to contending to bother anyways. They'd be much better signing Melky (or better, Headley) and then seeing what they can do to improve the pitching without breaking the farm system again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 08:39 PM) Who cares? He isn't a one year rental, we would have him till he's 34, that's as good as it's going to get. I'd listen if Dodgers are willing to throw in some money. Aren't Dodgers supposedly dealing him because he has an opt out and thus would be kind of a rental? Or did I misread? Either way, I don't believe for one second the Dodgers are going to trade Greinke. Not unless they plan on signing Lester or making a couple other major moves. By the way, I must be the only one but if we could trade Anderson for Shark straight up and get him to sign for a slightly below market 4 year deal with a 5th year option, I'd be all over it. I'd probably even be willing to go 5 years. I think a rotation with Shark as our #3 with Rodon developing would be a huge step in the right direction and I still believe we can move Danks for an overpriced bat of some sort. PS: I'd try to trade others then Anderson cause he clearly can hit the ball but at the end of the day, I'd make the trade as long as Shark was around long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 11:52 PM) Aren't Dodgers supposedly dealing him because he has an opt out and thus would be kind of a rental? Or did I misread? Either way, I don't believe for one second the Dodgers are going to trade Greinke. Not unless they plan on signing Lester or making a couple other major moves. By the way, I must be the only one but if we could trade Anderson for Shark straight up and get him to sign for a slightly below market 4 year deal with a 5th year option, I'd be all over it. I'd probably even be willing to go 5 years. I think a rotation with Shark as our #3 with Rodon developing would be a huge step in the right direction and I still believe we can move Danks for an overpriced bat of some sort. PS: I'd try to trade others then Anderson cause he clearly can hit the ball but at the end of the day, I'd make the trade as long as Shark was around long term. Good catch. There is a strong chance he will opt out after next year and sign a 5 year year $120 mil contract with a new team, provided he stays healthy and performs this year. As for Shark, I think his price is that of trading for an ace, I just don't think it takes only Anderson to get him, especially if he shows interest in signing a below market value extension. And he's more of a #2 or even #3 starter than an ace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Shark won't be signing an under-market deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Probably would take something like Garcia + Anderson + Montas Would love him, but no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 11:48 PM) He doesn't like Chicago, it's well known. He specifically had a beef with Q back in the day. I'm sure it's nothing he couldn't be talked into but it doesn't help imo. That said, Sox don't have the pieces to get this done and they aren't close enough to contending to bother anyways. They'd be much better signing Melky (or better, Headley) and then seeing what they can do to improve the pitching without breaking the farm system again. Focusing on just last years stats alone, which may or may not be right but it is the most recent sample, I don't think Headley is that much of an upgrade of Gillaspie. We are going to spend $40M+ for not that much of an upgrade when we have a gaping hole in LF? For a LF, Viciedo's production is abysmal, just absymal. I'd much rather spend that kind of payroll on Melky, who will be a significant upgrade in LF. His OBP is 70 points higher, his avg. is 70 points higher and his slugging is 70 points higher. Gillaspie had a higher batting avg, higher OBP and a higher slg % and made $500,000 last year. Assuming Headley makes $10 M next year, is he really worth 20x more than Gillaspie at this point? Whereas Viciedo is going to make $4.5M? Just doesn't make sense to me, unless I'm missing something (which is always possible). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Good lord. Fill the holes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 09:30 AM) Good lord. Fill the holes first. The rotation is the biggest hole. Pitching wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Great pitching does cover a lot of holes, not sure I'm in on trading for Greinke thou. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 3, 2014 -> 10:39 PM) Who cares? He isn't a one year rental, we would have him till he's 34, that's as good as it's going to get. I'd listen if Dodgers are willing to throw in some money. Not necessarily though, the final three years are essentially one big player option. So if he has another great year, he opts out. If he struggles, then you're probably on the hook for $77M for a player who just struggled. I don't think this one's realistic. I couldn't root for that guy anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 4, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) The rotation is the biggest hole. Pitching wins. Sale, Q, Greinke, Rodon, whoever gives you a chance to win all by itself. Edited December 4, 2014 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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