SCCWS Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I saw him play quite a bit this season and I have posted that I would love him to be one of the primary components in a trade for Q. Sale should not be traded. If Dombrowski calls for Sale then Bogaerts, Swihart and Bradely( not Betts) and several prospects would have to come our way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The Red Sox may have the bullets to get Sale, but it'd take most of them. It ain't happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 if we move Sale, big if, I'd only do it for an Arenado type swap. Arenado package is the deal I'd be fine with if it HAD to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/dealin...-sox-turnaround Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 01:15 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/dealin...-sox-turnaround If you can get Bogaerts, Swihart and a top prospect....then see ya Sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDWhiteSoxFan Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So realistically what would it take for you all to trade Sale away? I'm not in favor of trading him unless we get a massive haul back but I don't have a clue of prospects. I just know of Bogaerts and Swihart (which would be nice pieces) but what else would it take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (MDWhiteSoxFan @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 01:39 AM) So realistically what would it take for you all to trade Sale away? I'm not in favor of trading him unless we get a massive haul back but I don't have a clue of prospects. I just know of Bogaerts and Swihart (which would be nice pieces) but what else would it take. 2 big league players with huge potential and a top 50 prospect. That article was intriguing due to the Red Sox link, as Bogaerts/Swihart seems to be a fantastic starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Betts and Bogaerts would be the main guys in the package, but I'd also want Owens, Devers, and Margot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 12:44 AM) Betts and Bogaerts would be the main guys in the package, but I'd also want Owens, Devers, and Margot. No way would Boston give up that much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:46 PM) No way would Boston give up that much They probably wouldn't. However, Sale is a once in a generation type talent, so he'd require a once in a generation type return in any trade. The Sox shouldn't and aren't going to trade him for pennies on the dollar just for the sake of trading. A team is going to have to pay up to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 01:48 AM) They probably wouldn't. However, Sale is a once in a generation type talent, so he'd require a once in a generation type return in any trade. I think you're overrating him. Bogaerts might be a better player as soon as 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) I think you're overrating him. Bogaerts might be a better player as soon as 2016. You think that Bogaerts could possibly be better than Sale next season? I highly doubt it. Then again, it's super hard to compare a shortstop to a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) 2 big league players with huge potential and a top 50 prospect. That article was intriguing due to the Red Sox link, as Bogaerts/Swihart seems to be a fantastic starting point. Boegarts, Swihart, and Moncada? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 13, 2015 -> 01:58 AM) Boegarts, Swihart, and Moncada? Sure but doubt Boston does it. More like Devers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) Sure but doubt Boston does it. More like Devers Devers is going to be a star. I wonder what Boston would offer for Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) I think you're overrating him. Bogaerts might be a better player as soon as 2016. Lol no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 A realistic package for Sale is probably like, Eduardo Rodriguez, Swihart, Marrero and Devers. That's a franchise altering haul, but it ain't gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) A realistic package for Sale is probably like, Eduardo Rodriguez, Swihart, Marrero and Devers. That's a franchise altering haul, but it ain't gonna happen. I don't see that package as franchise altering, but that's just me. That's probably an appropriate package for Q, but I'd expect more for Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:12 PM) Lol no He's definitely not over rating him but he's definitely not a "once in a generation pitcher (well maybe for thus organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 You aren't being realistic then. That's a cheap 3-4 starter, a offense-oriented starting catcher, an all-glove SS and the best 3B prospect in the minors, all with at least 5 years of control. That is bonkers value, and the fact that Sale is even worth that shows just how special he is. A fair deal for Q is like, Swihart, Marrero and Owens. Still a haul but not on the same level. Q shouldn't be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 If you're dealing with Boston, include OF Benniventa (sp?) in the package. I would much rather have him than Swihart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:41 PM) If you're dealing with Boston, include OF Benniventa (sp?) in the package. I would much rather have him than Swihart. Are you referring to Andrew Benintendi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Benintendi is like 3 years away, and Swihart plays the position that has a shortage of impact talent. There aren't any good catchers available right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 07:48 PM) Benintendi is like 3 years away, and Swihart plays the position that has a shortage of impact talent. There aren't any good catchers available right now. Is Swihart really that good though? I know he has a lot of upside offensively, but he had 16 passed balls this past season according to Baseball Reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Nov 12, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) Betts and Bogaerts would be the main guys in the package, but I'd also want Owens, Devers, and Margot. This...at a minimum. Heck, throw Swihart in there too. Chris is unreal and if he were on the Dodgers or Yankees, he'd have won a couple Cy Youngs. We happen to have him under contract at about 15% of his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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