59th street Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I do not want to trade Alexi unless we get a positive return in an area of need, but he seems to be our best trading chip and quite valuable. Since none of our internal SS candidates seem to be "playoff caliber" ready is there any interest in seeing of Ev. Cabrera could be redeemed. He can play the position but has some knucklehead behavior/baggage: Biogenisis suspension, DUI/marijuana and resisting arrest charges pending and is a Boras client. He is young talented and would cost nothing to obtain. Maybe he could be a good placeholder until Anderson is ready? Anybody follow the NL closely enough to know if this guy is simply not worth the trouble, or is he just a youngster who has made a couple of very bad mistakes who could be "saved"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Everth, not Everett http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/dec/05/p...not-guilty-dui/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59th street Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 6, 2014 -> 05:34 PM) Everth, not Everett http://m.utsandiego.com/news/2014/dec/05/p...not-guilty-dui/ Thanks for the link and for fixing the name. Any opinion as to if he is worth picking up if we do trade Alexi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (59th street @ Dec 6, 2014 -> 11:59 PM) Thanks for the link and for fixing the name. Any opinion as to if he is worth picking up if we do trade Alexi? i have been waiting for someone to ask this question. now E, Cabrera does have a huge suitcase of problems. now with JR and his apprehension of signing players with a history of problems, PED-DUI. i just don't know. for me, i don't know if its getting a talented player for the team that i can overlook all that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I don't think he's any better of a bet than Semien or Sanchez and comes with more risk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger2004 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I've been waiting to see what happens with this kid, seeing if other teams would be willing to take a chance with him. But now, after reading the link here there is no way I would want any part of this kid's drama and his agent is Boras...no thanks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (midway @ Dec 6, 2014 -> 05:32 PM) I've been waiting to see what happens with this kid, seeing if other teams would be willing to take a chance with him. But now, after reading the link here there is no way I would want any part of this kid's drama and his agent is Boras...no thanks!!! There's always Asdrubal Cabrera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Dec 6, 2014 -> 08:36 PM) There's always Asdrubal Cabrera. I have no urge to pay him a comparable salary to what Alexei is currently getting, which is what he should get on the FA market, unless we've moved Alexei and still somehow have a "Compete right now" roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 (edited) If they traded Alexei, it would make sense to give him a look. Boras being his agent doesn't mean much, he iwould still be controlled through arb. He has some talent, but hasn't been the same simce he hurt IIRC a hammy. PED, DUI isn't a great mix. I read somewhere he also had a domestic battery. If that is true, you probably would have to pass. Edited December 7, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 He put up a .572 OPS last year. I bet Cleuluis could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 02:44 AM) If they traded Alexei, it would make sense to give him a look. Boras being his agent doesn't mean much, he iwould still be controlled through arb. He has some talent, but hasn't been the same simce he hurt IIRC a hammy. PED, DUI isn't a great mix. I read somewhere he also had a domestic battery. If that is true, you probably would have to pass. that position should be filled before any movement of Alexei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 04:38 AM) He put up a .572 OPS last year. I bet Cleuluis could do that. with the advance stat aside, do you think he is no better of a SS then Cleuluis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 If we are picking up a scrapheap SS w hopes of find lightnig in a bottle to replace Lexi, I think I'd take my chances on Jed Lowrie. This is all barring we get some sort of major league SP or LF or C in return. I don't want to trade Alexei for prospects if we are truly "going for it" as signing LaRoche indicates strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 01:19 AM) with the advance stat aside, do you think he is no better of a SS then Cleuluis? I was exaggerating Cleuluis' hitting ability, which is very limited, to point out how bad E Cabrera was with the bat last year. 263 players got at least 300 plate appearances last year and advanced stats regard Cabrera as the 8th worst in baseball last year. Regarding defense, my understanding was that Cleuluis would be an above average defensive shortstop in MLB right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 07:26 AM) If we are picking up a scrapheap SS w hopes of find lightnig in a bottle to replace Lexi, I think I'd take my chances on Jed Lowrie. This is all barring we get some sort of major league SP or LF or C in return. I don't want to trade Alexei for prospects if we are truly "going for it" as signing LaRoche indicates strongly. QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 07:43 AM) I was exaggerating Cleuluis' hitting ability, which is very limited, to point out how bad E Cabrera was with the bat last year. 263 players got at least 300 plate appearances last year and advanced stats regard Cabrera as the 8th worst in baseball last year. Regarding defense, my understanding was that Cleuluis would be an above average defensive shortstop in MLB right now. Both are excellent opinions. i was wrong in my thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (Vance Law @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 02:43 AM) I was exaggerating Cleuluis' hitting ability, which is very limited, to point out how bad E Cabrera was with the bat last year. 263 players got at least 300 plate appearances last year and advanced stats regard Cabrera as the 8th worst in baseball last year. Regarding defense, my understanding was that Cleuluis would be an above average defensive shortstop in MLB right now. Who were the other 7 worst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 QUOTE (oldsox @ Dec 7, 2014 -> 07:08 AM) Who were the other 7 worst? He was going by wRC+, and it's actually 6 players.... http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...0&sort=17,a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Thanks, Chili. Some interesting stuff there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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