Heads22 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Uh, so those of you in this thread want to check out the other one now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 $46 not $40, still not bad, just glad we filled the biggest need a need with an elite option. Payroll currently at around $92 mil (not counting $9.5 due to Shark in arb if we get him). If we get rid of Viciedo, we might still be able to get Melky for $14 AAV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 09:55 PM) I must admit I haven't even processed the 10 million annually he's going to get. I keep tellin folks they gotta just not worry about money right now. Also been saying we're gonna spend big this offseason for ages... Also said we're gonna get a deal done ALA Freddy Garcia back in 2004. LaRoche - 12.5M Duke - 4.5M Robertson - 11.5 Shark - 10M About 29M so far and we're not done yet - boys and gals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4789 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Does this make us going after another player with a qualifying offer seem more realistic. I dont mind losing a third for maybe melky. Also if the sox do happen to get a player who recieved a qualifying offer does the other team get a sandwich pick also or does it fall lower then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/instagraphs...avid-robertson/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:01 PM) 29 Not bad. Got to love the numbers he has posted, etc. Good stuff, great k ratio, etc. Closed in a major stage. Like I said...as long as Jerry is willing to go into that 100-110 territory, it works well and definitely makes us much closer to contention. Hopefully that payroll ends up closer to 110-115 cause then we have more flexibility to ensure we address outfield and have wiggle room to go with Jeff long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Someone may have already mentioned this, but the Sox surrender their 2nd RD pick for Robertson, which means they may be more inclined to go after another guy with a pick attached. Maybe some Melky action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (beautox @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:03 AM) Wow, go get a left fielder and maybe Grandal and I'm happy. Sad to see Marcus on his way out but Micah, Sanchez and a couple of options in Fernandez and the other cuban import excite. Lets gun for the wild card boys maybe Detroit falters and we can compete for the division. should make for a great summer. Grandal ship likely sailed. They tried for sure, fwiw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:03 PM) I'm assuming we had to outbid the Yankees for his services. Who the hell would ever think the Sox would win a bidding contest against Yankees. Believe this is the largest contract ever given to a reliever...or at least that is what I just heard on ESPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 10:04 PM) $46 not $40, still not bad, just glad we filled the biggest need a need with an elite option. Payroll currently at around $92 mil (not counting $9.5 due to Shark in arb if we get him). If we get rid of Viciedo, we might still be able to get Melky for $14 AAV. Plus you still have to see what happens with Danks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:09 AM) Who the hell would ever think the Sox would win a bidding contest against Yankees. Believe this is the largest contract ever given to a reliever...or at least that is what I just heard on ESPN. Papelbon got $50 million for 4 years from Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:03 AM) Uh, so those of you in this thread want to check out the other one now. Haha. Thank you. I keep getting sucked into one thread and missing news in the other... even if this ESPN report seems to have jumped the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 FanGraphs has him worth a 1.8WAR this upcoming season. What's the $/WAR ratio? Like $7M? Not a bad deal when you look at it like that....even a little under value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) MLBN saying Yankees never offered him a deal. Edited December 9, 2014 by Bigsoxhurt35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:16 AM) FanGraphs has him worth a 1.8WAR this upcoming season. What's the $/WAR ratio? Like $7M? Not a bad deal when you look at it like that....even a little under value. About $6-7M, yeah. He technically has been worth the deal he just signed, but I just don't feel comfortable giving over 2 years to such a volatile job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:08 AM) Someone may have already mentioned this, but the Sox surrender their 2nd RD pick for Robertson, which means they may be more inclined to go after another guy with a pick attached. Maybe some Melky action? They did in Shark, who in the event that he doesn't resign with the Sox, the team will get an extra pick, assuming the team gives him a QO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:20 AM) MLBN saying Yankees never offered him a deal. Well, technically they offered him a one year deal for $15.3 million. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12002705...david-robertson Both trades/moves are official according to cbssports.com http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-he...sox-seem-likely Edited December 9, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 8, 2014 -> 11:51 PM) I should hate all this money and commitcommitment but RICK HAHN JUST DROPPED HIS BALLS ON THE TABLE AND THEY ARE QUITE LARGE. Tomorrow Sox will announce the surprise signing of Jon Lester. Hahn then stood up on a table at the meeting, pulls down his pants jizzes on everyone's face. Theo and Jed gets the biggest load. Edited December 9, 2014 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Alright Jerry. You feel like opening up your wallet? I dare you to open up to sign Scherzer now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Whoever signs Belisario this offseason will have made a good move. His control and velocity is still all there. He wasn't great last year and was very unlucky but will come at a discount to his upside. If by "upside" you mean "cocaine", then yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Likely trade more than FA. As long as Viciedo isn't starting, I think we'll all be pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 12:25 AM) They did in Shark, who in the event that he doesn't resign with the Sox, the team will get an extra pick, assuming the team gives him a QO. No, I am saying now that they've surrendered a 2nd RD pick to sign Robertson, they can sign another FA with a pick attached and they would then only lose their 3rd RD pick. The penalty is lesser each subsequent FA we sign who has a pick attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Can't believe this thread is only at 11 pages. This is a big f***ing deal y'all! Way to go RH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzfest Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 yeahhhh buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Can't believe this thread is only at 11 pages. This is a big f***ing deal y'all! Way to go RH! Well were simultaneously (SIMULTANEOUSLY) figuring out a trade that gives the Sox maybe the best 1-2-3 in the AL. You can see Rich Hahn's balls from the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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