NorthSideSox72 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Alexeihyeess @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:41 AM) CL Robertson R SU Petricka R MR Duke L MR Putnam R MR Ynoa R LOOGY Surkamp L LR Beck That's my guess. Ynoa has barely over a full year of pro innings and hasn't pitched above Advanced A ball. Zero chance he sees the majors in 2015, probably not even 2016. Also highly doubt they'd put in Beck as a long reliever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:12 PM) Also highly doubt they'd put in Beck as a long reliever. I actually wouldn't be too terribly surprised by that if there's a bullpen opening. I don't think they'll leave him hanging in AAA if there's some room for a righty in the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nate Jones could be an excellent mid-season pick up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconOnAStick Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I had just assume Ynoa had played much more than he has. Beck as a LR/6th starter though I stand well behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Robertson Duke Petricka Putnam Webb Surkamp Garcia or Guerra or other And a hopeful August boost of Jones or Sanburn, and a dream scenario boost from Montas and/or Danish a little later, and the pen could be a strength down the stretch and in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 It's Closer: Robertson Everything else: matchups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Robertson is obviously the closer, with and Duke, Petricka, Guerra and Putnam in high leverage situations. Don't need this X is the 7th inning guy, y is the 8th inning guy nonsense. Use them as the situation begs. All can handle high leverage action. I wasn't as down on the pen as most were, and this is a pretty darn strong pen, I must say. Edited December 9, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 03:40 PM) It's Closer: Robertson Everything else: matchups Only if they take the time to work in this prior to the season and before each series. I know you don't believe it but these are people and they like to know where they stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 03:47 PM) Robertson is obviously the closer, with and Duke, Petricka, Guerra and Putnam in high leverage situations. Don't need this X is the 7th inning guy, y is the 8th inning guy nonsense. Use them as the situation begs. All can handle high leverage action. I wasn't as down on the pen as most were, and this is a pretty darn strong pen, I must say. We know that isn't true. Otherwise they wouldn't have been an awful pen last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) We know that isn't true. Otherwise they wouldn't have been an awful pen last year. Bingo. Guys like to go to work and know what their job is. I think you see Jake settle in for the 8th, unless it is primarily lefties. Zach will be the long/swing man. Guerra will be the set up guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:48 PM) Only if they take the time to work in this prior to the season and before each series. I know you don't believe it but these are people and they like to know where they stand. Of course they do. And the second RV can guarantee them that every pitcher will throw 7 innings every night, and that no one will blow up in relief, they can have that. The reality of a volatile baseball game and interlocking patterns of rest across each series makes these "roles and plans" impossible 60-70% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) Of course they do. And the second RV can guarantee them that every pitcher will throw 7 innings every night, and that no one will blow up in relief, they can have that. The reality of a volatile baseball game and interlocking patterns of rest across each series makes these "roles and plans" impossible 60-70% of the time. The better your starters are, the more set in roles your pen can be. Another side note here is that the addition of a guy like Samardjiza could mean the need to carry one less pen guy, and maybe another position player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 03:49 PM) We know that isn't true. Otherwise they wouldn't have been an awful pen last year. Cute the reality is that there were 3 decent pitchers in the pen and they not only had to handle high leverage, but also closer and to take care of the starters 3, 4 and 5 who couldn't get past the 6th inning. 2 of those 3 were extremely inexperienced and one a rookie. There wasn't a lefty of any ability to bring in so often the lefty wasn't brought in. Edited December 9, 2014 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) Of course they do. And the second RV can guarantee them that every pitcher will throw 7 innings every night, and that no one will blow up in relief, they can have that. The reality of a volatile baseball game and interlocking patterns of rest across each series makes these "roles and plans" impossible 60-70% of the time. It doesn't need to be the traditional innings division but the pitchers need to know their role. Putnam is the guy who comes in if its the 7th inning and the other teams middle of the order is coming up. Petricka is the guy if its 7th inning if its the bottom of the order. But this needs to be discussed, it can't be "just pitch when I tell you to." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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