SoxAce Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Wasn't it bucket who said the sox were eying Ackley and Butler at one point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If this team is seriously going to compete, they cannot have a left fielder with little power and a .300 OBP. Ackley is not an upgrade. Next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 11:50 PM) I'd like to get Melky as the next move or Kemp if we can move Danks to LA. It isn't happening. LA has better offers, and we don't have the money for Melky straight out if you listen to what Kenny said the other day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) If this team is seriously going to compete, they cannot have a left fielder with little power and a .300 OBP. Ackley is not an upgrade. Next? but i like him for other reasons, which makes this an ideal trade. second to Bruce. he bats #2 and if injury to Eaton, will lead off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:57 AM) "The Mariners have renewed interest in outfielder Dayan Viciedo, Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune reports." Here we go again. QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:57 AM) At this point, I'd take Maurer. Just get something done already. QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 06:34 AM) I know it's a long shot but I would love for the Sox to get back Dustin Ackley in any deal with Seattle. He could be a good left fielder for the Sox, and he wouldn't break the bank. Imagine this line up: Eaton - CF (L) Ramirez - SS Abreu - DH LaRoche - 1B (L) Garcia - RF Gillapse -3B (L) Ackley - LF (L) Flowers - C Johnson - 2B (L) What do you think? isn't Ackley a free agent anyway? Or no? Im not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 06:34 AM) I know it's a long shot but I would love for the Sox to get back Dustin Ackley in any deal with Seattle. He could be a good left fielder for the Sox, and he wouldn't break the bank. Imagine this line up: Eaton - CF (L) Ramirez - SS Abreu - DH LaRoche - 1B (L) Garcia - RF Gillapse -3B (L) Ackley - LF (L) Flowers - C Johnson - 2B (L) What do you think? Well, I guess Ackley's about the best they can do for Viciedo. Still, he's never achieved so much as a .700 OPS in a full season of play (Viciedo has). He's pretty awful at the plate. Also, Alexei is a bottom of the order hitter...his OBP is inadequate to hit in front of Abreu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:18 AM) Here we go again. Just get something done already. isn't Ackley a free agent anyway? Or no? Im not sure. 2015 is his first arbitration year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 06:59 AM) If this team is seriously going to compete, they cannot have a left fielder with little power and a .300 OBP. Ackley is not an upgrade. Next? QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:17 AM) but i like him for other reasons, which makes this an ideal trade. second to Bruce. he bats #2 and if injury to Eaton, will lead off. Both Kenny and Hahn have said that they want the team to be as athletic as possible and Ackley allows that. He's a good runner, a solid defender (From what I have seen, I need to check the metrics on the glove but he can't be worst than Viciedo.) and another left handed bat. His offensive numbers should improve in a better ballpark and a better lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Ackley can also play second, in addition to left field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 08:17 AM) but i like him for other reasons, which makes this an ideal trade. second to Bruce. he bats #2 and if injury to Eaton, will lead off. Again, his OBP is .300. He is not a viable option to lead off. He is also not a good enough outfielder to replace Eaton in CF, in the event of an injury to Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:57 AM) "The Mariners have renewed interest in outfielder Dayan Viciedo, Bob Dutton of the Tacoma News Tribune reports." Must be their back-up plan in case they can't sign Melky Cabrera. Adding him and Cruz in one off-season would be quite expensive, no doubt about that....on top of Hernandez and Cano. Luckily, Paxton and Walker are cheap and have a ton of promise if they can stay healthy. Edited December 10, 2014 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:45 PM) Again, his OBP is .300. He is not a viable option to lead off. He is also not a good enough outfielder to replace Eaton in CF, in the event of an injury to Eaton. umm i never said replacing Eaton in CF. i said replace him leading off. if one is looking for a player to meet the advance stats, all the time, nothing will be accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 If Seattle wants Viciedo then let them have him. I'd happily take Ackley or Maurer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 08:45 AM) Again, his OBP is .300. He is not a viable option to lead off. He is also not a good enough outfielder to replace Eaton in CF, in the event of an injury to Eaton. QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:10 AM) umm i never said replacing Eaton in CF. i said replace him leading off. if one is looking for a player to meet the advance stats, all the time, nothing will be accomplish. QUOTE (Lillian @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 08:45 AM) Again, his OBP is .300. He is not a viable option to lead off. On base percentage is not an advanced stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 06:34 AM) I know it's a long shot but I would love for the Sox to get back Dustin Ackley in any deal with Seattle. He could be a good left fielder for the Sox, and he wouldn't break the bank. Imagine this line up: Eaton - CF (L) Ramirez - SS Abreu - DH LaRoche - 1B (L) Garcia - RF Gillapse -3B (L) Ackley - LF (L) Flowers - C Johnson - 2B (L) What do you think? If you don't like Viciedo at the plate, why would you like Ackley? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Good sign there's mutual interest from the Sox and Mariners. Get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:27 AM) Good sign there's mutual interest from the Sox and Mariners. Get it done. I can't believe they still think he's worth that money, and I can't believe the Sox haven't gotten rid of him yet if anyone, anywhere will take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) On base percentage is not an advanced stat. i think this was referred toward me. oops. sorry. i was wrong. thanks for correcting me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) On base percentage is not an advanced stat. another question, why have an OBP player if he is batting #2? the #2 hitters has a whole different set of mentality to think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) Ackley is similar to Viciedo, both failed to meet expectations (Viciedo's a failed prospect and Ackley was supposed to be the savior of the Mariners.) and a change of scenery could do both them justice. Ackley is a better defensive player than Viciedo, he's good on the base baths and he's a left handed bat and he allows the Sox to be as athletic as possible. He also strikes out 32 times less Edited December 10, 2014 by Joshua Strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Dustin Ackley is Brent Lillibridge 2.0...no thanks unless he's a 4th OF'er. Tank for Carson Smith would be a pretty good deal for us but not sure if that would be asking for too much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:32 PM) Ackley is similar to Viciedo, both failed to meet expectations (Viciedo's a failed prospect and Ackley was supposed to be the savior of the Mariners.) and a change of scenery could do both them justice. Ackley is a better defensive player than Viciedo, he's good on the base baths and he's a left handed bat and he allows the Sox to be as athletic as possible. He also strikes out 32 times less and hitting in the cell will be better than hitting in that cavern of a baseball park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:36 PM) Dustin Ackley is Brent Lillibridge 2.0...no thanks unless he's a 4th OF'er. Tank for Carson Smith would be a pretty good deal for us but not sure if that would be asking for too much the point is not to ask for too much in order to get the deal done. Ackley is the player that will be needed to be move if sea takes DV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:13 AM) On base percentage is not an advanced stat. OBP is a component of OPS, which is an Advanced Stat. Aren't we "splitting hairs" here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 08:39 AM) the point is not to ask for too much in order to get the deal done. Ackley is the player that will be needed to be move if sea takes DV Always try to maximize your return and I would rather have Ackley than a bullpen arm, especially since the Sox are trying to compete. The guy fills a ton of needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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