aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 It would be the White Flag trade part II and the season hasn't started yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 seems like it doesnt it........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Thats a little harsh, imo. I will be pissed if they make a bad deal, but I refuse to ever Boycott the Sox. Plus, it all depends on who we get in return. I think PK makes a lot of money, so if they were to deal and get Ortiz and find a similar replacement, I'd be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkDJ Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Come on now, we are called fans for a reason. If KW trades, hypothetically, Maggs for Royce Clayton I'll be extremely pissed but I'm still a fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjmarte Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Yea, jury is still out for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Author Share Posted December 17, 2002 There is no similar replacement to PK, he is the man on this team besides Mags and Buehrle. I'd rather give them Frank and pay Frank's salary than trade them Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Look at Konerko's stats. Yes they are good, and yes he's a leader, but you can find that out of many first baseman out their. PK is my favorite player, but I do not think he's irreplaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Author Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by HawkDJCome on now, we are called fans for a reason. If KW trades, hypothetically, Maggs for Royce Clayton I'll be extremely pissed but I'm still a fan! And as a fan, you have the right to expect a competent person running the team. Trading PK is not a competent move and most Sox fans would agree with that. Of course I'd still love the Sox, but hell, why trade away a fan favorite who is relatively cheap. Think about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by abozichiu And as a fan, you have the right to expect a competent person running the team. Trading PK is not a competent move and most Sox fans would agree with that. Of course I'd still love the Sox, but hell, why trade away a fan favorite who is relatively cheap. Think about it. I agree with that with the exception of one thing, PK isn't cheap. He just signed a new contract that will pay him very well. 3 yrs 23 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Author Share Posted December 17, 2002 Compared to what guys like Thome and Giambi have gotten, it's a steal. It's not above my realm of expectations to expect 30 HR and 110+ RBI seasons out of PK for the next three seasons. At just over 7 mil, I'll take that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 I definately would too, but its also not out of the realm that he will fall somewhere in between last years season and the one before. I think he's good, but I don't really know how much better he can get. Thome was way over-paid and he only got that cause the Phils were desperate to sign someone after they were losing out on Glavine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnThats a little harsh, imo. I will be pissed if they make a bad deal, but I refuse to ever Boycott the Sox. Plus, it all depends on who we get in return. I think PK makes a lot of money, so if they were to deal and get Ortiz and find a similar replacement, I'd be happy. well think about it jas.. just exactly how many players are left from the 2000 team??? the names are fading away like water running from a spicket.........has all the makings of a white flag to me......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted December 17, 2002 Author Share Posted December 17, 2002 I'm beginning to think you work for KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Well, if I worked for KW, I'd promise one thing, I'd be pushing heavily to pull two deals and one signing and it was the ones I listed in my thread somewhere down their. I'd love to see Colon and Ortiz in our rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 if you worked for kw jas you had better be pushing his stupid ass out of a window in a highrise building.... thats the only way you would ever get anything done............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 wouldnt it be hilarious if we traded konerko for ortiz and he proceeded to pull a ritchie??? on paper ths doesnt look to be that bad of a trade..but i have a real bad feeling about this one..just like i did last year with the ritchie trade (for those that wernt here last year - i fought so much with everyone here on how stupid that trade was i thought mario was going to ban me..lol) i really see this trade blowing up in our face...i realize that ortiz is much better than ritchie could ever hope to be...but there is something about williams and thee types of trades...wells, ritchie, and now possibly ortiz...they all backfire DONT DO IT KENNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Or maybe wrapping him in a towel and dangling him out the window of an apartment or hotel when there is a crowd of people out there.... Wait, just heard the news...damnit, someone already did that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by baggio202wouldnt it be hilarious if we traded konerko for ortiz and he proceeded to pull a ritchie??? on paper ths doesnt look to be that bad of a trade..but i have a real bad feeling about this one..just like i did last year with the ritchie trade (for those that wernt here last year - i fought so much with everyone here on how stupid that trade was i thought mario was going to ban me..lol) i really see this trade blowing up in our face...i realize that ortiz is much better than ritchie could ever hope to be...but there is something about williams and thee types of trades...wells, ritchie, and now possibly ortiz...they all backfire DONT DO IT KENNY That was what I was thinking right away...and then I realized there is no way in hell it could. Ritchie had started the previous year 0-8 and had an ERA in the mid 4.00s, pitched for a team that sucked ass, and we gave up 3 pitchers in that deal. Ortiz didn't start out 0-8 this year, pitched in game 6 of the World Series and should have won it easily but the Giants blew it(and I am still laughing my f***ing ass off over that one! Lofton didn't get his ring...HAHA), he pitched over 200 innings and we are only giving up Paully K and a minor leaguer and we are going to get a minor leaguer in return as well. Then again, this IS KW we're dealing with here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Baggs, do you do it if we get Ainsworth in return as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Good argument Abozichiu! I'm with you 100% on everything you said although it would be extremely hard for me to stay away from Comiskey in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted December 17, 2002 Share Posted December 17, 2002 Originally posted by ChisoxfnBaggs, do you do it if we get Ainsworth in return as well? i dont know enough about ainsworth to decide either way..sorry... i think its a real risky trade..konerko is very popular here and if this one falls through its another PR disaster...i realize konerko is not the second coming of lou gerigh but i think he , thomas and maggs need to stay together... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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