GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 08:35 PM) Dan Hayes of CSN has mentioned Rasmus as a possible LF option still. Where did he say this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:09 PM) Nightengale just mentioned the White Sox are thinking about Ichiro. Lol seriously? Kenny always gets his guy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 07:11 PM) Lol seriously? Kenny always gets his guy! "Debate going on in white sox camp about signing ichiro " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSox Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 No thanks to Ichiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:11 PM) Lol seriously? Kenny always gets his guy! It Seemed to me that Ichiro looked like he was on the downward slide last year, but it would be interesting. And more fun than Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:14 PM) No thanks to Ichiro. He actually wouldn't be a bad 4th OF. He is still good defensively, can run, and could come off the bench and still get a hit. But if you are playing him 140 games, i don't think that works anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I'd rather have Colby Rasmus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:16 PM) He actually wouldn't be a bad 4th OF. He is still good defensively, can run, and could come off the bench and still get a hit. But if you are playing him 140 games, i don't think that works anymore. If he was brought in for that, I would love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I was told his defense is starting to decline quite a bit, if he was still the Ichiro of old in the field, I'd be all about him despite the below average bat at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:19 PM) I was told his defense is starting to decline quite a bit, if he was still the Ichiro of old in the field, I'd be all about him despite the below average bat at this point. Which is still WAY better than Dayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 09:49 PM) Which is still WAY better than Dayan. And that sad thing is Dayan barely out hit Ichiro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Sure, over Jordan Danks. But then you're spending another $3-5 million on a role player.....when we've done that in the past with DeAza and Keppinger. If we were THIS close to the playoff picture and within budget, sure. Right now, as it stands, that money has to go to a starting/close to everyday player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 Dude hit .284 last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Dude hit .284 last year And would be a huge defensive improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 11:21 PM) Dude hit .284 last year Which is like saying that DV hit 21 homers last year. It's the only way you can possibly make an argument that either player contributed anything on offense. And it is incomplete and misleading. He put up an 88 wRC+ and was a -5 defender by UZR for the first time in a while. Ichiro is a legend, but at this stage in his career, I'd MUCH rather we try to sign Gerrardo Parra for similar money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Dude hit .284 last year QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:31 AM) And would be a huge defensive improvement. Someone made the point in the Ichiro thread that the .284 was an "empty" .284. Might be true, but his defense and speed would be better than Viciedo. I'm beginning to think I could see him as a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:34 AM) Which is like saying that DV hit 21 homers last year. It's the only way you can possibly make an argument that either player contributed anything on offense. And it is incomplete and misleading. He put up an 88 wRC+ and was a -5 defender by UZR for the first time in a while. Ichiro is a legend, but at this stage in his career, I'd MUCH rather we try to sign Gerrardo Parra for similar money. I keep hearing a Gerrado Parra signing suggestions on here. Parra is in his 3rd year of arbitration and is still owned by the Brewers. Sure, we could trade for him, but Parra is NOT a free agent. What am I missing? As for Ichiro, as others have said, if he is coming in to be the 4th outfielder and pinch hitter/runner, great. If it is to be the everyday LF, I think we can do much better. It is not the worst idea ever, but I think Rick has bigger plans for LF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 11:21 PM) Dude hit .284 last year Ichiro is #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 10:39 AM) I keep hearing a Gerrado Parra signing suggestions on here. Parra is in his 3rd year of arbitration and is still owned by the Brewers. Sure, we could trade for him, but Parra is NOT a free agent. What am I missing? As for Ichiro, as others have said, if he is coming in to be the 4th outfielder and pinch hitter/runner, great. If it is to be the everyday LF, I think we can do much better. It is not the worst idea ever, but I think Rick has bigger plans for LF. Oh, I thought Parra was non-tendered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) Oh, I thought Parra was non-tendered. I don't believe so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) Oh, I thought Parra was non-tendered. He was tendered a contract but the Brewers have said that he is available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:34 AM) Someone made the point in the Ichiro thread that the .284 was an "empty" .284. Might be true, but his defense and speed would be better than Viciedo. I'm beginning to think I could see him as a starter. His defense isn't anywhere near what it used to be and I don't think he's particularly fast either. He's 41 guys. As a 4th outfielder, he'd be perfectly fine, but I don't think he'd be a 4th outfielder which I feel would inevitably make him a liability at this point. Frankly, on the off chance that Viciedo shows the patient, staying back on the ball approach that he shows for 2 weeks out of the year for 6 weeks instead, I'd rather go with him. Also, I do not believe for a second that they are up against their actual money limit, but they are probably nearing it for their current budget. I don't see a Tanaka or anything like that on the horizon, so they probably don't want to spend much more than they currently have and want to save room for some smaller additions as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 11, 2014 -> 09:55 AM) His defense isn't anywhere near what it used to be and I don't think he's particularly fast either. He's 41 guys. As a 4th outfielder, he'd be perfectly fine, but I don't think he'd be a 4th outfielder which I feel would inevitably make him a liability at this point. Frankly, on the off chance that Viciedo shows the patient, staying back on the ball approach that he shows for 2 weeks out of the year for 6 weeks instead, I'd rather go with him. Also, I do not believe for a second that they are up against their actual money limit, but they are probably nearing it for their current budget. I don't see a Tanaka or anything like that on the horizon, so they probably don't want to spend much more than they currently have and want to save room for some smaller additions as well. Which still leaves him as WAY better than Dayan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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