pettie4sox Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 Are you guys talking about service time so they can have more control of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) Are you guys talking about service time so they can have more control of him? He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons. I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2. Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 01:42 PM) You don't want that loophole? Great. What are the players willing to give up in negotiation in exchange for closing it? I think something of this vein is exactly how the international draft happens, and the money pipeline to Latin America gets closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 03:36 PM) He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons. I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2. Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing. Boras understands it so well he understands it better than you. He understands that b***ing publicly gets attention and helps make that change a priority for the union in the future. He will then understand that the next loophole available will be the loophole MLB teams will exploit. He will then understand that he needs to publicly b**** about that loophole in order to get it closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 02:36 PM) He's in the same boat Rodon is in. Send him down for 2 weeks, you get him for 7 seasons. I will agree with Boras that if the Cubs are trying to win, baseball will be broken if they keep him in Des Moines until he won't be a Super 2. Boras exploits every loophole he can. He should be very understanding the other side does as well. If he ran a team, he would do the same thing. Except Bryant spent all of last season in the minors Rodon has only had a cup of coffee in the minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) Except Bryant spent all of last season in the minors Rodon has only had a cup of coffee in the minors. The real hypothetical then is what we'd do if Rodon was in the same situation next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) The real hypothetical then is what we'd do if Rodon was in the same situation next year. I think there was a verbal agreement that he would be in the majors by at least the end of this season and into next when they signed him. At least that is the speculation among the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted March 25, 2015 Share Posted March 25, 2015 I dont understand why the Cubs are taking Baez with them. I think he has a fairly good chance of leading baseball in strikeouts. His approach is just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 After tonight's start, is Boras going to start whining about Rodon not starting the year with the Sox either? Him and Bryant are basically in the exact same situation, except the media only slurps one of them so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Differences: 1) All the attendant media hype surrounding one year of eye-popping numbers in the minors 2) 107 years and counting without a World Series title 3) Gary Scott/Kevin Orie/Bobby Hill/Brooks Kieschnick/Hee Sop Choi, etc. Long string of busts in the infield for the Cubs. Shawon Dunston never even quite lived up to the hype back in the mid 80's. 4) Kyle Schwarber=Babe Ruth (enough said) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 I need Bryant to face Sale and Rodon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:23 AM) I need Bryant to face Sale and Rodon. Samardzija taking him down a peg or two would be poetic justice as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:05 AM) After tonight's start, is Boras going to start whining about Rodon not starting the year with the Sox either? Him and Bryant are basically in the exact same situation, except the media only slurps one of them so far. They aren't even close to the same situation. Rodon has all of 24 minor league innings, 12 at AAA. He has pitched fine, but it's not like he has been unhittable every outing. Saying that he needs more seasoning in the minors is completely defensible, especially as a pitcher. You also have to worry about his work load given his lower inning totals in the past. Bryant has a full season in the minors plus a month or two. Since day one he has been the best minor leaguer in the country and now leads all of baseball in homers during spring training. There's a justified reason why one is being talked about way more than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 03:19 AM) Samardzija taking him down a peg or two would be poetic justice as well. Typo, I meant Baez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 26, 2015 -> 12:15 AM) Differences: 1) All the attendant media hype surrounding one year of eye-popping numbers in the minors 2) 107 years and counting without a World Series title 3) Gary Scott/Kevin Orie/Bobby Hill/Brooks Kieschnick/Hee Sop Choi, etc. Long string of busts in the infield for the Cubs. Shawon Dunston never even quite lived up to the hype back in the mid 80's. 4) Kyle Schwarber=Babe Ruth (enough said) #caulfielded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The White Sox bringing Rodon north would cause a new headache to the situation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 (edited) http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/...partner=ya5nbcs Cubs predicted at 84 wins, just outside the playoffs for 2015...very similar to White Sox prognostications. Edited March 27, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 One of the rooftop owners was just indicted for mail fraud for under-reporting revenues and attendance to the tune of 600K. whoops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 27, 2015 Author Share Posted March 27, 2015 Rob Biertempfel @BiertempfelTrib 3h3 hours ago Florida, USA Manfred: "I don't think #Cubs' decision with respect to what's going to happen with Kris Bryant is really any of Mr. Boras' business." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) Rob Biertempfel @BiertempfelTrib 3h3 hours ago Florida, USA Manfred: "I don't think #Cubs' decision with respect to what's going to happen with Kris Bryant is really any of Mr. Boras' business." What? It has everything to do with Boras and how soon the extra zeros on his commission check increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...y-major-leagues Bryant, Epstein differ on his readiness for OD Just watch the Cubs struggle to get out of the gate with a sub .500 record while Bryant is tearing up Iowa and see the pressure ratchet up on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 12:59 PM) What? It has everything to do with Boras and how soon the extra zeros on his commission check increase. I think the point is it's still not Boras' decision to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/%E2%80%98wh...&ocid=yahoo Epstein tired of all the distractions, sticks to PR points in providing 4-5 reasons Bryant shouldn't be on OD roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 27, 2015 -> 08:42 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/%E2%80%98wh...&ocid=yahoo Epstein tired of all the distractions, sticks to PR points in providing 4-5 reasons Bryant shouldn't be on OD roster. Maybe Boras can engineer a swap for Rodon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 (edited) http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/cubs-double...&ocid=yahoo Hypocrisy on keeping Baez up but sending Bryant to Iowa? Edited March 28, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts