ILMOU Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2015 -> 09:33 AM) Rizzo is 25 and hasn't reached 3 full MLB seasons, yet we are already pegging him as an every other year hitter? Ok then. Didn't know that I "pegged" anything - pretty sure I did not. But Rizzo has been inconsistent. Abreu has been nothing but awesome - in Cuba, and in MLB, despite seeing every pitcher here for the first-ever time (pitcher's advantage), playing a much longer season in terms of games and months, nursing injuries much of the time (undoubtedly playing hurt for some of it), losing a ton of weight to transform himself into a 162 game player for the future, and, oh yeah, defecting and adjusting to a whole new world where he doesn't speak the language. No comparison, imo, when all is considered. Edited January 23, 2015 by Stan Bahnsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 23, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) Didn't know that I "pegged" anything - pretty sure I did not. But Rizzo has been inconsistent. Abreu has been nothing but awesome - in Cuba, and in MLB, despite seeing every pitcher here for the first-ever time (pitcher's advantage), playing a much longer season in terms of games and months, nursing injuries much of the time (undoubtedly playing hurt for some of it), losing a ton of weight to transform himself into a 162 game player for the future, and, oh yeah, defecting and adjusting to a whole new world where he doesn't speak the language. No comparison, imo, when all is considered. and you forgot adjusting to the cold freaking chicago weather. i remember last yr he wasn't wearing a coat or jacket when signing autograph and talking pictures. i bet he was freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 23, 2015 -> 10:47 AM) Didn't know that I "pegged" anything - pretty sure I did not. But Rizzo has been inconsistent. Abreu has been nothing but awesome - in Cuba, and in MLB, despite seeing every pitcher here for the first-ever time (pitcher's advantage), playing a much longer season in terms of games and months, nursing injuries much of the time (undoubtedly playing hurt for some of it), losing a ton of weight to transform himself into a 162 game player for the future, and, oh yeah, defecting and adjusting to a whole new world where he doesn't speak the language. No comparison, imo, when all is considered. He has been "inconsistent" as a 21-23 year old getting his first taste of the majors. That's usually the case if your name isn't Mike Trout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 23, 2015 -> 10:31 AM) He has been "inconsistent" as a 21-23 year old getting his first taste of the majors. That's usually the case if your name isn't Mike Trout. Well, we'll find out soon enough. He didn't put any less pressure on himself with his comments, and he's the kind of guy that beats himself up when things aren't going well. Kinda reminds me of a left handed Paulie. Whereas, Abreu reminds me of Miggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 RIP Ernie Banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 I just saw that Rizzo guaranteed a division title. Wow. Talk about taking a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 24, 2015 -> 12:38 PM) I just saw that Rizzo guaranteed a division title. Wow. Talk about taking a chance. i think STL has something to say about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 24, 2015 -> 10:04 AM) i think STL has something to say about that. And Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 The rats are literally fleeing Wrigley Field. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0129-story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) The rats are literally fleeing Wrigley Field. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0129-story.html I hate the Urinal that is Wrigley Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 10:27 PM) I hate the Urinal that is Wrigley Field. i was laughing when i read that. i can imagine those rodents flipping off the locals. in broad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 My girlfriend is from a Cubs family, though she's never been huge into baseball herself. Her brother has suggested a friendly wager for 2015--his idea was that if the Cubs win the City Series, I have to go to a game at Wrigley in Cubs regalia with him, and vice versa. I counterproposed something that I think would be a little more fun...rather than a six game series (or even something like overall win-loss record), why not some more off-the-wall stuff? I thought maybe we could pick five "races" and whoever wins three of them wins. Of course, this wouldn't get resolved and the game in question would not occur until 2016, unless we set a cutoff date of August 1st or September 1st or something. Some things I thought of... Abreu homers vs Rizzo homers Sale/Samardzija strikeouts vs Lester/Arrieta strikeouts Adam Eaton home runs vs Cubs pitchers home runs Any other ideas? These should all be toss-ups, obviously. Maybe something like hitter with highest batting average, Robertson saves vs Rondon saves, most 20 HR hitters, etc... I'm pretty saber-inclined but he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 QUOTE (OsweGo-Go Sox @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 06:53 AM) My girlfriend is from a Cubs family, though she's never been huge into baseball herself. Her brother has suggested a friendly wager for 2015--his idea was that if the Cubs win the City Series, I have to go to a game at Wrigley in Cubs regalia with him, and vice versa. I counterproposed something that I think would be a little more fun...rather than a six game series (or even something like overall win-loss record), why not some more off-the-wall stuff? I thought maybe we could pick five "races" and whoever wins three of them wins. Of course, this wouldn't get resolved and the game in question would not occur until 2016, unless we set a cutoff date of August 1st or September 1st or something. Some things I thought of... Abreu homers vs Rizzo homers Sale/Samardzija strikeouts vs Lester/Arrieta strikeouts Adam Eaton home runs vs Cubs pitchers home runs Any other ideas? These should all be toss-ups, obviously. Maybe something like hitter with highest batting average, Robertson saves vs Rondon saves, most 20 HR hitters, etc... I'm pretty saber-inclined but he's not. You could contain these bets within the crosstown series instead of end of year results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 This is exactly where there is an old Comiskey and a new one. Sean Gentille @seangentille 3h3 hours ago Wrigley renovations cost $575 million. PNC was $216 million total. Crazy. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/sports/b...sports&_r=0 … View summary 0 replies 10 retweets 10 favorites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 So the Chicago radio scene has the cub coming in second in the James Shields sweepstakes and the cubs getting Hammels for a couple of good not top 100 prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 03:34 PM) This is exactly where there is an old Comiskey and a new one. Sean Gentille @seangentille 3h3 hours ago Wrigley renovations cost $575 million. PNC was $216 million total. Crazy. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/05/sports/b...sports&_r=0 … View summary 0 replies 10 retweets 10 favorites I am guessing building a brand new Wrigley would cost pretty close to what they are paying to renovate. What seems to always happen is the building budget will be broken and costs will skyrocket. I wouldn't be surprised if this costs Ricketts a lot more than the current price estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 10:37 AM) So the Chicago radio scene has the cub coming in second in the James Shields sweepstakes and the cubs getting Hammels for a couple of good not top 100 prospects. Yeah I saw that on the Kap and Haugh show yesterday. Kap thinks the Cubs will trade Castillo, Wood and a couple prospects not named Baez, Almora, Edwards (obviously not Russell or Bryant) for Hamels. Lol what a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) Yeah I saw that on the Kap and Haugh show yesterday. Kap thinks the Cubs will trade Castillo, Wood and a couple prospects not named Baez, Almora, Edwards (obviously not Russell or Bryant) for Hamels. Lol what a joke. Amaro is stupid, but not that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 05:01 PM) Amaro is stupid, but not that stupid. Oh come on, there's no way Boston or the Cardinals could top Wood, Castillo and mid-level prospects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 11:04 AM) Oh come on, there's no way Boston or the Cardinals could top Wood, Castillo and mid-level prospects The cubs issue will be the holes left after the youth is traded. The Cardinals and Red Sox have youth to trade with a good MLB team. The cubs need to hit on all of these guys for their rebuild to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 08:35 PM) The cubs issue will be the holes left after the youth is traded. The Cardinals and Red Sox have youth to trade with a good MLB team. The cubs need to hit on all of these guys for their rebuild to work. The Cubs could trade Russell and still not be left with a hole at the big league level. I actually think the Cardinals depth is slowly eroding, as their farm system has dried up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 10, 2015 -> 02:38 PM) The Cubs could trade Russell and still not be left with a hole at the big league level. I actually think the Cardinals depth is slowly eroding, as their farm system has dried up. Cardinals wre really rolling the dice with their rotation after Wainwright this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) I think the Cubs need to trade Castro, Castillo, and Almora to the Phillies for Hamels. That would be enough, right? Edited February 10, 2015 by Chilihead90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Lynn is rather inconsistent and Wacha hasn't pitched more than 107 innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 They have a lot more quality depth than the White Sox at the back end. Sure, there's a lot more uncertainty with pitchers like Kelly, Shelby Miller and Tyrell Jenkins all gone. That said, Wacha obviously has the ability and post-season pedigree, Martinez is tremendously talented, Lynn's the equivalent of Quintana essentially...of course, most would take Sale over Wainright, but it's not like Gonzalez and Garcia are chopped liver. While Rodon has more POTENTIAL, the Cardinals still have more overall depth in the upper levels of their system. Montas and Danish are at least 1 1/2 seasons away...at least as starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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