Panerista Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) My fault, didn't mean to go all AustinIllini How dare you use numbers to back up your argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) Bryant just hit another incredibly cheap homer with the wind. He's putting up monster numbers at Wrigley this year, as he is an absolute monster with the wind blowing out due to the loft he gets. Reds bullpen has been awful vs the Cubs this year. Edited September 2, 2015 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexiAlexei Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 04:11 PM) My buddy just tweeted at me saying he heard people discussing this on the radio (didn't say what station) and that that tweet was meant to be for a fan...... I don't know if I buy that. I heard this interview. It was on Waddle and Silvy. Arrieta said some guy messaged him saying he didn't get a no-no because Castro's error should have been ruled a hit. Arrieta claims he thought he clicked to reply just to this one guy, and didn't realize it was going out to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The SCORE uses a term called bum slayer for guys like Joakim Noah but isn't that exactly what the cubs are? That lineup beats bad pitching but gets handled rather easily by good pitching. I guess maybe that is all of baseball who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Votto! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:11 PM) Votto! BRYANT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) The SCORE uses a term called bum slayer for guys like Joakim Noah but isn't that exactly what the cubs are? That lineup beats bad pitching but gets handled rather easily by good pitching. I guess maybe that is all of baseball who knows. I'm thinking it's the strikeouts. When I have some time later I'll look closer to see how high strikeout offenses have fared against good pitching, I would think they're more susceptible to being put down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (SexiAlexei @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:08 PM) I heard this interview. It was on Waddle and Silvy. Arrieta said some guy messaged him saying he didn't get a no-no because Castro's error should have been ruled a hit. Arrieta claims he thought he clicked to reply just to this one guy, and didn't realize it was going out to everyone. That makes a lot more sense than him calling out Castro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:11 PM) Votto! It is crazy how dangerous he is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Chapman looks way off today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 How did they get Austin Jackson for nothing? Teams seem to really like helping the cubs out going back to the Derek Lee and Ramirez days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 04:15 PM) I'm thinking it's the strikeouts. When I have some time later I'll look closer to see how high strikeout offenses have fared against good pitching, I would think they're more susceptible to being put down. They struck out 13 times today and that seems to be the norm. All of their rookies strike out over 31% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Hammel has pitched more than 5.2 innings in a start only once in his last 9 starts. With Lester being shaky every other start and Hendricks being bad the last 5 weeks or so, that rotation suddenly looks very vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Chapman vs Baez was an interesting battle. Nice series win for the Reds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) Bryant just hit another incredibly cheap homer with the wind. He's putting up monster numbers at Wrigley this year, as he is an absolute monster with the wind blowing out due to the loft he gets. Reds bullpen has been awful vs the Cubs this year. God, he's special. Like Abreu special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panerista Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Really good discussion about the Cubs starting pitching problems on the Score. Play in Game Arrieta Game 1 - Lester Game 2 - BAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 05:52 PM) Really good discussion about the Cubs starting pitching problems on the Score. Play in Game Arrieta Game 1 - Lester Game 2 - BAD This is the only downside of them being a year ahead of schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 11:02 PM) This is the only downside of them being a year ahead of schedule. Or having a horrendous trade deadline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 05:47 PM) God, he's special. Like Abreu special. His home/away splits are splits are really noticeable. Like fathom said, definitely made for Wrigley in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) Or having a horrendous trade deadline Bah, they weren't giving up any of their young players yet and that's a decision they made long ago. Even with the Nationals example I can't really criticize for sticking to your plan. Price, Arrietta, Lester looks a lot better next year and doesn't even cost them a draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) Bah, they weren't giving up any of their young players yet and that's a decision they made long ago. Even with the Nationals example I can't really criticize for sticking to your plan. Price, Arrietta, Lester looks a lot better next year and doesn't even cost them a draft pick. Agree with all of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) Bah, they weren't giving up any of their young players yet and that's a decision they made long ago. Even with the Nationals example I can't really criticize for sticking to your plan. Price, Arrietta, Lester looks a lot better next year and doesn't even cost them a draft pick. I watched one of those painful Kap & Haugh cubs deep-throating videos on CSN and they were saying if the cubs extend Arrieta & sign Price they will end up shelling out almost a half billion for 3 arms. Incredible. And they aren't young dudes. I kind of hope they do sign Price because that might actually close their window, financially speaking. 4 years from now they could be in some real financial trouble unless they get all Dodgersy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) I watched one of those painful Kap & Haugh cubs deep-throating videos on CSN and they were saying if the cubs extend Arrieta & sign Price they will end up shelling out almost a half billion for 3 arms. Incredible. And they aren't young dudes. I kind of hope they do sign Price because that might actually close their window, financially speaking. 4 years from now they could be in some real financial trouble unless they get all Dodgersy. It would certainly make things tough when their position players are ready to be paid. Putting all that money into pitchers over 30 does not seem like a good idea, but if it brings them a title it'll probably be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 07:30 PM) I watched one of those painful Kap & Haugh cubs deep-throating videos on CSN and they were saying if the cubs extend Arrieta & sign Price they will end up shelling out almost a half billion for 3 arms. Incredible. And they aren't young dudes. I kind of hope they do sign Price because that might actually close their window, financially speaking. 4 years from now they could be in some real financial trouble unless they get all Dodgersy. I bet the Dodgers will total that for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) I bet the Dodgers will total that for 2. Is one of those 2 going to be Greinke? I don't really see them shelling out that much for a guy who will be 32 next season. There's also pretty much no chance he gets anywhere close to a 1.60 ERA again, he's been insanely lucky with both BABIP and LOB%, with both marks being significantly off his career averages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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