flavum Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Pirates fans must be torn on who to root for in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Wow, huge win for Cardinals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Wow, huge win for Cardinals! Now even if the Cardinals go 11-12 to finish the year the Cubs would have to go 19-5 to match them. Also, just saw highlights of Grichuk's "throws" from CF. He cost the Cards two runs today, are they that desperate for offense? Puzzling move by Matheny. Though that botched rundown in the 1st was perhaps even more pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 What's so bad about Jon Jay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Chuck Swirsky on Twitter ready to give the Cubs the next 5 World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Is the fact the cubs strike out at an alarming rate ever going to be an issue? On average they strike out once an inning...that is on average. Good pitchers get them three times every two innings and a good closer...well you get the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 04:22 PM) Looks like the Cubs are the latest victim of Fernando Rodney's wild ride. That was overrated at Disney World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) Is the fact the cubs strike out at an alarming rate ever going to be an issue? On average they strike out once an inning...that is on average. Good pitchers get them three times every two innings and a good closer...well you get the point. They also continuously have good at bats and make the pitchers work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:53 PM) Is the fact the cubs strike out at an alarming rate ever going to be an issue? On average they strike out once an inning...that is on average. Good pitchers get them three times every two innings and a good closer...well you get the point. MLB rank of strikeouts by previous MLB champions: 2014: Giants - 17th 2013: Red Sox - 8th 2012: Giants - 26th 2011: Cardinals - 29th 2010: Giants - 19th 2009: Yankees - 27th 2008: Phillies - 12th 2007: Red Sox - 21st 2006: Cardinals - 25th 2005: White Sox - 17th 2004: Red Sox - 4th 2003: Marlins - 23rd 2002: Angels - 30th 2001: Diamondbacks - 20th 2000: Yankees - 22nd So it seems like in general teams that win the World Series don't strike out much, but the Red Sox did win it twice with high-strikeout offenses. Does any of this mean anything? Who knows. I'd love to find out an easy way to see how high-strikeout offenses do against good pitching in general, but I don't know where to easily find that kind of data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 03:41 PM) Wow, huge win for Cardinals! Pedro Strop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 lol that's what the Cubs get for throwing Fernando Rodney out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 09:51 PM) Chuck Swirsky on Twitter ready to give the Cubs the next 5 World Series. Wow, you're not kidding. He makes J4Life sound pessimistic. Good thing Chuck was allowed to do so many Sox games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 The Cubs would be below .500 if they were in the AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 06:08 PM) The Cubs would be below .500 if they were in the AL. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 06:26 PM) lol What? They play so many bad teams. The Phillies, Braves, Marlins, Reds, Brewers, Rockies, and Diamondbacks are all horrible and playing them is a guaranteed win most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 06:28 PM) What? They play so many bad teams. The Phillies, Braves, Marlins, Reds, Brewers, Rockies, and Diamondbacks are all horrible and playing them is a guaranteed win most of the time. The bottom of the NL is indeed horrific but c'mon now. They've fared pretty well against the Giants, Mets, and Pirates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 06:37 PM) The bottom of the NL is indeed horrific but c'mon now. They've fared pretty well against the Giants, Mets, and Pirates. They were also mediocre against the Sox, Tigers, and Indians, who are all fairly poor teams in the AL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Saying they would be under .500 in the AL is a bit of a stretch, but I do think their record would be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 07:27 PM) Saying they would be under .500 in the AL is a bit of a stretch, but I do think their record would be worse. Same with the Cardinals and Pirates too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 07:29 PM) Same with the Cardinals and Pirates too. Yes. It's really night & day just how awful the NL is compared to the AL. The #2-#3 starters are horrible...not to mention the 4s & 5s. Mercy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 The circle jerk has come back to the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 06:07 PM) Wow, you're not kidding. He makes J4Life sound pessimistic. Good thing Chuck was allowed to do so many Sox games. The whole thing with Chuck tweeting that the Cards know a tsunami is coming is why it's hard to support the Cubs. I doubt the Cardinals are in the fetal position biting their fingernails in fear. They have history on their side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) Yes. It's really night & day just how awful the NL is compared to the AL. The #2-#3 starters are horrible...not to mention the 4s & 5s. Mercy. A good but not great hitter in the AL like Cespedes goes to the NL and becomes an MVP candidate. When's the last time a hitter went from NL to AL and improved significantly? http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/i...ing-up-momentum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 JD Martinez was with Houston when they were in the NL. Batista and Encarnacion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 10, 2015 -> 06:47 AM) JD Martinez was with Houston when they were in the NL. Batista and Encarnacion. Ok, how about an example within the last 3 years when the disparity between the leagues has appeared to have grown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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