RockRaines Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 04:40 PM) I did. It requires a ton of nuance and subtelty to plan for that, two things GL SUCKS at. Also, don't Jedi's sense other people, especially evil people, with the Force? Wouldn't they have sensed that with Jar Jar at many, many points along the road? No. The emperor was right under their noses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Didn't DV and Yoda have the ability to sense the Force in others? To me that just proves how GL couldn't have pulled this off. He already broke a canon rule of how Jedi's work if no one could have sensed Jar Jar or Palpatine. His whole argument rests on the idea that there's no luck in the Star Wars world based on what someone in the movies said once. If we can ignore certain rules, why not ignore that there's no luck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) Didn't DV and Yoda have the ability to sense the Force in others? To me that just proves how GL couldn't have pulled this off. He already broke a canon rule of how Jedi's work if no one could have sensed Jar Jar or Palpatine. His whole argument rests on the idea that there's no luck in the Star Wars world based on what someone in the movies said once. If we can ignore certain rules, why not ignore that there's no luck? I dont recall them being able to sense the force in Sith lords Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Palpatine was using Force Stealth to hide his Force presence from the Jedi. From the linked Wookieepedia page: Force stealth also referred to as Force Concealment or Buried Presence was a power that was used by highly skilled Force-sensitives to mask their Force alignment (Light or Dark), their ability to use the Force, or even their entire presence from other Force sensitives. Palpatine was the most powerful and notorious user of this power, having hid his dark nature for over three decades from the Jedi Council, even when in the same room. Jedi Masters Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda both used a form of Force concealment to shield themselves from Palpatine and Vader in their exile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Oh I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Nicole Kidman is joining Wonder Woman. Everything about that movie sounds amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 05:27 PM) I dont recall them being able to sense the force in Sith lords Jar Jar couldn't be a Sith because him being one would violate the Rule of Two. Theory disproved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I saw the martian on Friday. The climactic scene was a little much, but it was a fun movie. I wish Hollywood made more of these. They used to pump out like 10-12 of these a year it felt like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:10 PM) Jar Jar couldn't be a Sith because him being one would violate the Rule of Two. Theory disproved That rule has already been cast aside, Maul, Palpatine and Dooku already existed at once in the prequels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) That rule has already been cast aside, Maul, Palpatine and Dooku already existed at once in the prequels No. During the events of Episode 1, Dooku was for lack of a better term a free agent, he left the Jedi Order after his meeting with Sifo Dyas and a disguised Sidious. So that means the only Sith were Sidious and Maul. After Obi Wan 'kills' Maul, there was only 1 Sith Lord. Yes, Maul does come back but not as Sith but as a Dark Jedi. Ventress and the Inquisutors are not Sith, but Dark Jedi as well. The Rule of Two was always in tact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 07:03 PM) No. During the events of Episode 1, Dooku was for lack of a better term a free agent, he left the Jedi Order after his meeting with Sifo Dyas and a disguised Sidious. So that means the only Sith were Sidious and Maul. After Obi Wan 'kills' Maul, there was only 1 Sith Lord. Yes, Maul does come back but not as Sith but as a Dark Jedi. Ventress and the Inquisutors are not Sith, but Dark Jedi as well. The Rule of Two was always in tact. Yes http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rule_of_Two Sidious broke the Rule of Two at least twice: once by training Darth Maul while still under the tutelage of Darth Plagueis; and secondly, by taking on two apprentices at once, and in the form of two Jedi: Count Dooku (former padawan of Master Yoda[2]), dubbed Darth Tyranus, and the Fosh Jedi Vergere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Ya'll nerds. /Puts on Back to the Future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:10 PM) Jar Jar couldn't be a Sith because him being one would violate the Rule of Two. Theory disproved The theory is that he's a puppet master even higher than the Sith we see or he's Snoke. Edited November 3, 2015 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 2, 2015 -> 06:43 PM) That rule has already been cast aside, Maul, Palpatine and Dooku already existed at once in the prequels No, Dooku didn't become Palpatine's apprentice until Darth Maul was dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) No, Dooku didn't become Palpatine's apprentice until Darth Maul was dead. if Anything this Reddit renewed my interest in the prequels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 This argument deserves a soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 09:26 AM) No, Dooku didn't become Palpatine's apprentice until Darth Maul was dead. Eh, star wars wiki says it has been broken. Im not really gonna argue anymore, if Snoke ends up being Jar Jar Binks, i dont think that is a masterful writing stroke by Lucas as much as it is an insult by JJ Abrams. Leave that crap behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarComing25 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/ Plinkett's Star War reviews, I rewatch them occasionally as they're hilarious. They're very long but definitely worth watching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 That theory is interesting but if that was the case, that was a horrible character. You can't introduce a loony tune as a crucial bit to your trilogy. The director should have seen what was being created and nipped it in the bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 I don't think there's any chance of this theory being true. I think Jar Jar was created to amuse kids and nothing more. It's just a guy on reddit having some fun - my guess is even he isn't taking it seriously. People on reddit like to come up with quirky theories just to see if they can defend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 10:51 AM) That theory is interesting but if that was the case, that was a horrible character. You can't introduce a loony tune as a crucial bit to your trilogy. The director should have seen what was being created and nipped it in the bud. To be fiar, Yoda was kind of a looney tune, obviously the reaction to Jar Jar could have been the reason they scrapped that story and added Dooku. It makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 11:10 AM) To be fiar, Yoda was kind of a looney tune, obviously the reaction to Jar Jar could have been the reason they scrapped that story and added Dooku. It makes sense. Yes, but he was old and didn't look horrendous. Those movies aged horribly. They look awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Caught up on some movies this weekend: John Wick. Highly enjoyable. I heard about a drinking game where you drink every time he shoots someone in the head.....I think you'd die if you played all the way through. Draft Day. Too boring for me. And also incredibly stupid. No franchise, not even the Browns, wait until hours before the draft to do ANY homework on a potential pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 02:11 PM) Caught up on some movies this weekend: John Wick. Highly enjoyable. I heard about a drinking game where you drink every time he shoots someone in the head.....I think you'd die if you played all the way through. Draft Day. Too boring for me. And also incredibly stupid. No franchise, not even the Browns, wait until hours before the draft to do ANY homework on a potential pick. The trades in that movie were also laughably unrealistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Nov 3, 2015 -> 01:20 PM) The trades in that movie were also laughably unrealistic. Oh yeah, for sure. Also, what was the point of his relationship with the cap girl? What did that add to the movie other than some small conversations to fill out the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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