2015 Films thread

[LDF]

I've seen Spectre three times now.

 

It is my favorite Bond movie of all time. From Casino Royale to Spectre, you have a complete story arc for the character. This is one of the best looking movies that I have seen in a while, maybe since Interstellar, which shouldn't be a shock because it was shot by the same cinematographer, Hoyte Van Hoytema. The set pieces were great, in particular the opening scene in Mexico which was made to look all like one continious shot and the car chase in Rome. And I am a sucker for large scale globetrotting movies.

 

I think Spectre is getting mixed reviews for two main reasons, the first is that people wanted Skyfall 2.0, meaning the exact same movie and Spectre is the complete opposite, where Skyfall is Bond at his lowest point and a rather dark film, Spectre shows Bond at the top of his game and is a very light and enjoyable film and is very much a love story. My second reason is that Spectre is not a spy movie, it is an adventure film rather than a spy film, having seen the film thre times now, each time I was very much reminded of Raiders of the Lost Ark, a lot of the same beats are there. Dare I say that theyre the same movie... just kidding.

 

My only real complaint is that it really underused Christoph Waltz as Oberhauser, but remember that Spectre was conceived as being the first part of a two part story that concludes in Bond 25 and Waltz is suppoused to play a much bigger role there.

 

Another reason why I liked it so much is that it reminded me of On Her Majesty's Secret Service which has been until recently my favorite film in the series (its also the best book alongside Casino Royale in my opinion), I imagine that is where they are going to go in Bond 25, but the major scene in that story's climax has already been done in Casino Royale.

 

Spectre also had the best kind of ending that a movie could have, it concluded the story of James Bond that began in Casino Royale but it leaves enough to the imagination that it can continue on in your head.

 

excellent, this is a multi time going to see it. it took the movie from the beginning and combine several of the older movies into this one with the major piece coming from as you said On Her Majesty Secret Service. which is my favorite and only b/c of Diana Rigg the actress. also as you mention and i will add more, it also has several other tidbits of other bonds older movie. as i said before, this movie really dives in with OHMSS movie, but the problem there, james bond real love also died there.

 

i wonder if that is how the next movie starts off.

 

i also liked the old 60's type of suits by Tom Ford.

 

now the biggest and smartest that industry did was to give daniel craig points in the production. so it would be foolish for daniel craig not to do another bond when he is getting production cost.

 

now for all the james bond fan, who is Wilfred "Biffy" Dunderdale

 

second is more on his childhood and parents getting killed.

[LDF]

excellent, this is a multi time going to see it. it took the movie from the beginning and combine several of the older movies into this one with the major piece coming from as you said On Her Majesty Secret Service. which is my favorite and only b/c of Diana Rigg the actress. also as you mention and i will add more, it also has several other tidbits of other bonds older movie. as i said before, this movie really dives in with OHMSS movie, but the problem there, james bond real love also died there.

 

i wonder if that is how the next movie starts off.

 

i also liked the old 60's type of suits by Tom Ford.

 

now the biggest and smartest that industry did was to give daniel craig points in the production. so it would be foolish for daniel craig not to do another bond when he is getting production cost.

 

now for all the james bond fan, who is Wilfred "Biffy" Dunderdale

 

second is more on his childhood and parents getting killed.

 

btw, if you want to see a movie with the real Ian Flemming in it, see an old ww2 movie with cliffton webb in the spy who never was.

 

fleming got some of his real life experience of creating false stories for the british to use to fool the nazi. true story on flemming role in ww2.

[Y2Jimmy0]

Bridge of Spies is excellent

[knightni]

The Peanuts Movie is a great family film.

 

Plenty of call-backs to the TV specials yet it felt totally new.

[Jenksismyhero]

I've seen Spectre three times now.

 

It is my favorite Bond movie of all time. From Casino Royale to Spectre, you have a complete story arc for the character. This is one of the best looking movies that I have seen in a while, maybe since Interstellar, which shouldn't be a shock because it was shot by the same cinematographer, Hoyte Van Hoytema. The set pieces were great, in particular the opening scene in Mexico which was made to look all like one continious shot and the car chase in Rome. And I am a sucker for large scale globetrotting movies.

 

I think Spectre is getting mixed reviews for two main reasons, the first is that people wanted Skyfall 2.0, Spectre is the complete opposite, where Skyfall is Bond at his lowest point and a rather dark film, Spectre shows Bond at the top of his game and is a very light and enjoyable film and is very much a love story. My second reason is that Spectre is not a spy movie, it is an adventure film rather than a spy film, having seen the film thre times now, each time I was very much reminded of Raiders of the Lost Ark, a lot of the same beats are there. Dare I say that theyre the same movie... just kidding.

 

My only real complaint is that it really underused Christoph Waltz as Oberhauser, but remember that Spectre was conceived as being the first part of a two part story that concludes in Bond 25 and Waltz is suppoused to play a much bigger role there.

 

Another reason why I liked it so much is that it reminded me of On Her Majesty's Secret Service which has been until recently my favorite film in the series (its also the best book alongside Casino Royale in my opinion), I imagine that is where they are going to go in Bond 25, but the major scene in that story's climax has already been done in Casino Royale.

 

Spectre also had the best kind of ending that a movie could have, it concluded the story of James Bond that began in Casino Royale but it leaves enough to the imagination that it can continue on in your head.

 

Count me in the camp that wanted this to be Skyfall 2.0, which I consider to be one of the best Bond films ever. 30 years ago it was fine to do the over-the-top spy movie. But that's been played out. Adding some emotional weight to the character is a GOOD thing. Making him more human is a GOOD thing. Making him more of a cartoon character is not, and that's what this movie fell back to.

 

 

 

[LDF]

Count me in the camp that wanted this to be Skyfall 2.0, which I consider to be one of the best Bond films ever. 30 years ago it was fine to do the over-the-top spy movie. But that's been played out. Adding some emotional weight to the character is a GOOD thing. Making him more human is a GOOD thing. Making him more of a cartoon character is not, and that's what this movie fell back to.

 

making him more human is totally wrong from all the books of james bond, how ever i can see a need to change things up. i however didn't take this movie as him being more human, but more of him being more indifferent and trying to get laid more. which is in character of the book.

 

the Blofeld character become a real personal issue with him, esp in the second part which i am sure it will follow.

 

the whole bond and parents takes a twist, if they follow the book.

 

i can't wait to see how they do it.

 

either way, it is a great movie.

 

remember, for those who disagree. when has a bond movie ever been a academy award movie????

[Boopa1219]

Count me in the camp that wanted this to be Skyfall 2.0, which I consider to be one of the best Bond films ever. 30 years ago it was fine to do the over-the-top spy movie. But that's been played out. Adding some emotional weight to the character is a GOOD thing. Making him more human is a GOOD thing. Making him more of a cartoon character is not, and that's what this movie fell back to.

 

Spectre is not an over the top spy movie, it's still grounded in realism. Daniel Craig said it best, they started something with Casino Royale and it comes full circle with Spectre. He said that he liked that all the classic tropes were absent in CR because the character did not earn them yet. With Spectre being Bond fully formed, they were able to play with those tropes.

 

And Spectre is not a spy movie at all, it's an adventure film.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Joshua Strong

[Jenksismyhero]

making him more human is totally wrong from all the books of james bond, how ever i can see a need to change things up. i however didn't take this movie as him being more human, but more of him being more indifferent and trying to get laid more. which is in character of the book.

 

the Blofeld character become a real personal issue with him, esp in the second part which i am sure it will follow.

 

the whole bond and parents takes a twist, if they follow the book.

 

i can't wait to see how they do it.

 

either way, it is a great movie.

 

remember, for those who disagree. when has a bond movie ever been a academy award movie????

 

But they don't HAVE to stick to the books. They can be better than that. They can try to elevate the series. A great comparison is the Tim Burton v. Christopher Nolan Batman films. Yes, having a cartooney-batman was fun, but it's been done. That's why Nolan's reboot was so fantastic. It was raw, gritty, and more emotional. The Craig-Bond series was like that, until this last one. Keep the great Bond stuff - the cars, the action sequences, the martini's, the Bond girls - but add a story that actually has some weight and some emotion to it. Raise the stakes a bit. But you have to earn it. In this one,

having Blofeld explain that he's been screwing with Bond for the last few movies all because he had daddy issues was f***ing sophmoric level writing. If that was their attempt to keep the emotion/weight going, they failed miserably.

 

[Jenksismyhero]

Spectre is not an over the top spy movie, it's still grounded in realism. Daniel Craig said it best, they started something with Casino Royale and it comes full circle with Spectre. He said that he liked that all the classic tropes were absent in CR because the character did not earn them yet. With Spectre being Bond fully formed, they were able to play with those tropes.

 

And Spectre is not a spy movie at all, it's an adventure film.

 

Escaping Blofeld's crater hide out in 5 seconds, or even Waltz' version of Blofeld itself, didn't reek of Austin Powers to you? It was pretty comical.

 

I'm not suggesting you can't have fun with the movie. Even Skyfall had its moments. But I like the Bond films where Bond feels some emotion, he feels loss, rejection, devastation, etc. which fuels him to go get some revenge. That to me was a tonal shift that made these last few enjoyable. He had it in this one, but the explanation trying to tie it all together was so bad.

Edited November 10, 2015 by Jenksismybitch

[LDF]

But they don't HAVE to stick to the books. They can be better than that. They can try to elevate the series. A great comparison is the Tim Burton v. Christopher Nolan Batman films. Yes, having a cartooney-batman was fun, but it's been done. That's why Nolan's reboot was so fantastic. It was raw, gritty, and more emotional. The Craig-Bond series was like that, until this last one. Keep the great Bond stuff - the cars, the action sequences, the martini's, the Bond girls - but add a story that actually has some weight and some emotion to it. Raise the stakes a bit. But you have to earn it. In this one,

having Blofeld explain that he's been screwing with Bond for the last few movies all because he had daddy issues was f***ing sophmoric level writing. If that was their attempt to keep the emotion/weight going, they failed miserably.

 

ohhh 2 major point in that post..... i like it.

 

point 1. i totally agree, they had to update this to a realistic realm, but everything is still in the 60's kind of attitude. except for the cars and helo. i keep getting confuse as what era are they trying to do??? but that is me.

 

second the black out. really nice and a great psychiatrically mumble jumble stuff. however remember their is a group and this is but one person who is in the group and his reasons to hate bond.

 

btw, what was anyone opinion of Dr. Moriarty the actor performance in the movie.

 

did you hear that car that went swimming in the canal cost 6 mil and it was a 1 of a kind car.....

[LDF]

Escaping Blofeld's crater hide out in 5 seconds, or even Waltz' version of Blofeld itself, didn't reek of Austin Powers to you? It was pretty comical.

 

I'm not suggesting you can't have fun with the movie. Even Skyfall had its moments. But I like the Bond films where Bond feels some emotion, he feels loss, rejection, devastation, etc. which fuels him to go get some revenge. That to me was a tonal shift that made these last few enjoyable. He had it in this one, but the explanation trying to tie it all together was so bad.

 

n actuality Peirce Bronson added the feeling to the bond series esp in tomorrow never dies and the world is not enuf.

[Boopa1219]

Escaping Blofeld's crater hide out in 5 seconds, or even Waltz' version of Blofeld itself, didn't reek of Austin Powers to you? It was pretty comical.

 

I'm not suggesting you can't have fun with the movie. Even Skyfall had its moments. But I like the Bond films where Bond feels some emotion, he feels loss, rejection, devastation, etc. which fuels him to go get some revenge. That to me was a tonal shift that made these last few enjoyable. He had it in this one, but the explanation trying to tie it all together was so bad.

 

And the previous three Craig films did that, this is a different stage in the character's journey. This movie was Bond confident in who he is and his place in the world. We don't need a super dark and emotional story because the character has moved on from that point of his life.

 

Regarding Waltz, I thought the character was appropriate for the world that was started in Casino Royale. Again, the Waltz character was just a tease and he will have a much bigger role in Bond 25, where we will get Oberhauser fully formed and out for revenge of his own.

[LDF]

And the previous three Craig films did that, this is a different stage in the character's journey. This movie was Bond confident in who he is and his place in the world. We don't need a super dark and emotional story because the character has moved on from that point of his life.

 

Regarding Waltz, I thought the character was appropriate for the world that was started in Casino Royale. Again, the Waltz character was just a tease and he will have a much bigger role in Bond 25, where we will get Oberhauser fully formed and out for revenge of his own.

 

i really can't see that and the revenge factor.

 

but in this movie, he was cold and uncaring. his only goal was killing.

 

just remember this part, i am going to be very cryptic in this.

 

toward the end, he was driving in a car after a meeting, the person driving was kinda of looking at him and he was impersonal. not feeling or facial feelings being shown.

 

again for me, that was denoting his lack of emotion.

Edited November 10, 2015 by LDF

[Boopa1219]

btw, what was anyone opinion of Dr. Moriarty the actor performance in the movie.

 

You could have done without the character or make his ties to that one organization more apparent.

[LDF]

You could have done without the character or make his ties to that one organization more apparent.

 

really, never thought of it that way. you got a point.

 

btw, i love the irony of sherlock and bond. Flemming made up a whole family line based on sir arthur conon doyle of sherlock and the relationship of bond's family. he love to see if he could tie both characters together. but he dies before he finished.

 

btw, that is where i was going with this.

[Boopa1219]

i really can't see that and the revenge factor.

 

but in this movie, he was cold and uncaring. his only goal was killing.

 

just remember this part, i am going to be very cryptic in this.

 

toward the end, he was driving in a car after a meeting, the person driving was kinda of looking at him and he was impersonal. not feeling or facial feelings being shown.

 

again for me, that was denoting his lack of emotion.

 

I meant by that last bit in my post

 

We will get the ESB of our dreams in Bond 25

[Jenksismyhero]

And the previous three Craig films did that, this is a different stage in the character's journey. This movie was Bond confident in who he is and his place in the world. We don't need a super dark and emotional story because the character has moved on from that point of his life.

 

Regarding Waltz, I thought the character was appropriate for the world that was started in Casino Royale. Again, the Waltz character was just a tease and he will have a much bigger role in Bond 25, where we will get Oberhauser fully formed and out for revenge of his own.

 

What do you mean? That's the whole problem with the movie.

His "revenge" has been the events of the last 3 movies. He doesn't need MORE reason to go after Bond. He killed his own father and started Spectre and has traveled the world trying to exact revenge all because daddy liked orphan-James more. That's why it was so stupid that Bond voluntarily went to his hideout, and like every other horrible, awful, painfully stupid spy movie, he let Bond get away instead of just taking a gun and shooting him at first sight. But now that Bond gave him a scar he's going to really give it to Bond? What?

 

That's why that whole story line was f***ing stupid.

[LDF]

I meant by that last bit in my post

 

We will get the ESB of our dreams in Bond 25

 

i am totally on board with you on this.

[LDF]

What do you mean? That's the whole problem with the movie.

His "revenge" has been the events of the last 3 movies. He doesn't need MORE reason to go after Bond. He killed his own father and started Spectre and has traveled the world trying to exact revenge all because daddy liked orphan-James more. That's why it was so stupid that Bond voluntarily went to his hideout, and like every other horrible, awful, painfully stupid spy movie, he let Bond get away instead of just taking a gun and shooting him at first sight. But now that Bond gave him a scar he's going to really give it to Bond? What?

That's why that whole story line was f***ing stupid.

 

but you are missing the point, if they did as you said, the movie would have been 1/2 of the time, they would not have sold the refreshments. and then there would not been the next james bond. movie.

 

 

[LDF]

hey, it was great talking about the movie.....

[southsider2k5]

The Peanuts Movie is a great family film.

 

Plenty of call-backs to the TV specials yet it felt totally new.

We saw it with the kids this weekend and enjoyed it.

 

[Brian]

I actually enjoyed Spectre more than Skyfall, but that's not saying much cuz I'm in the minority in not really liking

 

I also don't think Daniel Craig is a very good Bond. He doesn't have any personality. Of course Brosnan is the Bond I grew up on and I don't read the books.

 

2.5 or 3 hours is way too long for Bond movies. I'm numb to most of the cliches like building blows up that Bond is in but HE ESCAPED. There is a lot they could cut out and tighten it up.

[Boopa1219]

What do you mean? That's the whole problem with the movie.

His "revenge" has been the events of the last 3 movies. He doesn't need MORE reason to go after Bond. He killed his own father and started Spectre and has traveled the world trying to exact revenge all because daddy liked orphan-James more. That's why it was so stupid that Bond voluntarily went to his hideout, and like every other horrible, awful, painfully stupid spy movie, he let Bond get away instead of just taking a gun and shooting him at first sight. But now that Bond gave him a scar he's going to really give it to Bond? What?

 

That's why that whole story line was f***ing stupid.

 

Obviously there will be more to it than just. "You scared my face and made me bald, now you have to die."

[Boopa1219]

[Kyyle23]

DC hires another writer to draft a script for Aquaman, this time the writer from the epic modern day classic, Wrath of the Titans