Whisox05 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Haven't seen it yet and will have to find a copy. Sporting news 2015 baseball yearbook is out and has their predictions for the year. Stuff from Scot gregor. Just got copy of Sporting News 2015 Baseball Yearbook...they pick #WhiteSox over Angels in w-card game. Tigers over Sox in ALDS https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553233515911733248 Sporting News 2015 Yearbook also picks Cubs to WIN World Series, over Tigers https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553233836545695744 More Sporting News 2015 Yearbook picks: Sale wins Cy Young, Soler wins ROY, Maddon wins Manager of Year. #WhiteSox #Cubs https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553236147309395968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Can someone explain to me what's with all the Cubs hype recently? Does adding Lester, Montero and bringing back Hammel, while getting Maddon to coach their team make them THAT much better? They have too many unproven talents for anyone to start hopping on their bandwagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) Can someone explain to me what's with all the Cubs hype recently? Does adding Lester, Montero and bringing back Hammel, while getting Maddon to coach their team make them THAT much better? They have too many unproven talents for anyone to start hopping on their bandwagon. The Cubs could be really good, but they would need all of their young players to pan out immediately and that is very unlikely. I would say they are still 2 or 3 years away from really being contenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) Can someone explain to me what's with all the Cubs hype recently? Does adding Lester, Montero and bringing back Hammel, while getting Maddon to coach their team make them THAT much better? They have too many unproven talents for anyone to start hopping on their bandwagon. That's what I thought too, but now I sort of understand it. The Cubs performed very well during the 2nd half of the 2014 season and they have some pretty solid rotation arms, now headlined by Lester. Travis Wood is really the John Danks of their rotation which includes Hammel, Lester, Arrieta, and Hendricks, which is a formidable top 4. The only question mark is the prospects, but I think Kris Bryant is a sure thing, and one to two of the Soler/Baez/Alcantara/Schwarber crowd could be perennial all-stars- and they also have Rizzo in that lineup. I think they'll win 80-87 games next year depending on how the prospects perform, but they have very underrated pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:18 AM) Haven't seen it yet and will have to find a copy. Sporting news 2015 baseball yearbook is out and has their predictions for the year. Stuff from Scot gregor. Just got copy of Sporting News 2015 Baseball Yearbook...they pick #WhiteSox over Angels in w-card game. Tigers over Sox in ALDS https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553233515911733248 Sporting News 2015 Yearbook also picks Cubs to WIN World Series, over Tigers https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553233836545695744 More Sporting News 2015 Yearbook picks: Sale wins Cy Young, Soler wins ROY, Maddon wins Manager of Year. #WhiteSox #Cubs https://twitter.com/scotgregor/status/553236147309395968 As for this, I think it's ridiculous and they need to wait for Scherzer and Shields to sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm not buying into Hendricks yet, and I want to see Arrieta continue to pitch well, but there's plenty of talent there anyways. Predicting them to win the World Series, however, is mere click bait or shock journalism. No one in their right mind should be predicting them to win the World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) I'm not buying into Hendricks yet, and I want to see Arrieta continue to pitch well, but there's plenty of talent there anyways. Predicting them to win the World Series, however, is mere click bait or shock journalism. No one in their right mind should be predicting them to win the World Series. Right. It's just an attention getter. Gun to their heads, no one there picks the Cubs over the Nationals/Cardinals/Dodgers to come out of the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I still don't think the Cubs have anything close the pitching talent necessary to be serious contenders this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I will get Wite to eat a shoe if the Cubs win the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 12:15 PM) Can someone explain to me what's with all the Cubs hype recently? Does adding Lester, Montero and bringing back Hammel, while getting Maddon to coach their team make them THAT much better? They have too many unproven talents for anyone to start hopping on their bandwagon. Adding Lester immediately gives them a decent rotation. Not top of the line yet but good. It takes them from the basement to the middle of the pack. The hype has everything to do with Theo and his group. They are leading the way for the SABR group and many of the national writers believe this is the way to go. The Cubs have compiled a number of really good hitting prospects. The only thing really missing was to buy the pitching since they didn't draft it. Their philosophy appears to be to acquire proven or MLB experienced pitching because drafting and developing them is tough to do. So far their plan is on track. however, for them to be that good this year, everyone one of the young players will need to have an impact and no one can have a bad year. Possible but not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thxfrthmmrs Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) Adding Lester immediately gives them a decent rotation. Not top of the line yet but good. It takes them from the basement to the middle of the pack. The hype has everything to do with Theo and his group. They are leading the way for the SABR group and many of the national writers believe this is the way to go. The Cubs have compiled a number of really good hitting prospects. The only thing really missing was to buy the pitching since they didn't draft it. Their philosophy appears to be to acquire proven or MLB experienced pitching because drafting and developing them is tough to do. So far their plan is on track. however, for them to be that good this year, everyone one of the young players will need to have an impact and no one can have a bad year. Possible but not likely. I know where you're coming from, and I personally feel that the Cubs can contend for a World Series in 2-3 years, and that's if at least 3 or Bryant, Soler, Baez, Russell, Almora and Schwarber pan out. Even if this opinion is coming from SABE writers, the Red Sox, Angels, and Dodgers still trump everyone else in terms of advance metrics. Taking a step back, this team hasn't finished above .500 in the past 5 years, and hasn't made the playoffs in 6 years, adding Lester and Maddon isn't enough to turn the ship around, unless they are banking on Bryant, Baez and Soler to be stars right out of the gate. Sabemetrics is cute and all, but basing the entire prediction on it and completely ignoring other factors like durability for 162 games and post season experience is completely asinine. Like other posters have said, this is a perfect example of attention getting or the equivalent of Skip Bayless trolling on ESPN. I don't even think Cubs fans themselves feel that their team is ready to win a WS this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 12:24 PM) That's what I thought too, but now I sort of understand it. The Cubs performed very well during the 2nd half of the 2014 season and they have some pretty solid rotation arms, now headlined by Lester. Travis Wood is really the John Danks of their rotation which includes Hammel, Lester, Arrieta, and Hendricks, which is a formidable top 4. The only question mark is the prospects, but I think Kris Bryant is a sure thing, and one to two of the Soler/Baez/Alcantara/Schwarber crowd could be perennial all-stars- and they also have Rizzo in that lineup. I think they'll win 80-87 games next year depending on how the prospects perform, but they have very underrated pitching. The reason I said they have a bunch of unproven players is the likelihood of Hammel, Arrieta, Hendricks and Wood putting up a dud season is just as high as the likelihood of them turning in a decent season, especially in the case of of Hendricks. The guy's stuff is below average and doesn't have a good pedigree. I am willing to bet that Noesi will turn in a better season than Hendricks would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I don't get all the Tigers hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) I don't get all the Tigers hype. Win the division a few years in a row and you get that kind of hype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 07:13 PM) I don't get all the Tigers hype. Yea especially with that pen and no scherzer and Porcello. Although I still think max resigns just because I don't see where else he'd end up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 09:59 PM) Win the division a few years in a row and you get that kind of hype. I guess. I just don't think them, or really anyone, is a front runner for the division let alone a shoe in for the AL pennant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (woods of ypres @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) I guess. I just don't think them, or really anyone, is a front runner for the division let alone a shoe in for the AL pennant. Well clearly there's no shoe-in for the pennant, but "Picking the team that won the division 4 years in a row" is an easy pick that only people who really pay attention will question. Plus, it has a solid chance of being right anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I thought this was OUR predictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Cubs win World Series? On what planet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) Cubs win World Series? On what planet? I predict we have a better record than they do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:43 PM) Well clearly there's no shoe-in for the pennant, but "Picking the team that won the division 4 years in a row" is an easy pick that only people who really pay attention will question. Plus, it has a solid chance of being right anyway. Yeah, I guess that is true. Edited January 10, 2015 by woods of ypres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:30 PM) I predict we have a better record than they do I plan on making a lot of bets with Cubs fans on this. I think the Sox are 10-15 games better than the Cubs, but their hype is so massive right now, I'd bet I can even get a lot of non-Cubs fans to take me up on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jan 9, 2015 -> 10:17 PM) I plan on making a lot of bets with Cubs fans on this. I think the Sox are 10-15 games better than the Cubs, but their hype is so massive right now, I'd bet I can even get a lot of non-Cubs fans to take me up on this. Just make it like a $5 per game bet. If the Sox finish 10 games better than the Cubs you win $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Anyone picking the Cubs to win the World Series next year is a joke and should lose all credibility as a journalist or sports writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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