iamshack Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (South Sider @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 08:45 AM) MONDAY 10:40am: Scherzer will receive $210MM for seven years of work, but the contract has a very unusual structure, with Scherzer receiving $15MM per season for the next 14 years, Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports tweets. That means the Nationals will be paying Scherzer through 2028. Also, Yahoo! Sports’ Jeff Passan tweets that the deal includes a $50MM signing bonus that will be paid out “over a portion of time” for tax reasons. That bonus would, presumably, be included in the $210MM total. Oh my...that is horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southwest Sider Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Nothing like getting paid to not work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Is that $15 million presumably inflation adjusted so that he actually receives more than $15 million per year towards the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 How does MLB even approve that kind of contract? To pay him into 2028? Seriously people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 When Gio Gonzalez is your #5 starter, I'd say your team is looking pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Thrilled with this deal. Scherzer had replaced Johan as the pitcher I felt the Sox had no chance to defeat when on the mound. Also, doesn't hurt to have a super rotation out there in case they face Cubs in postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 So the sidebar to this is that the Nationals have let it be known that they plan on trading Strasburg, NOT Zimmerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 06:05 PM) So the sidebar to this is that the Nationals have let it be known that they plan on trading Strasburg, NOT Zimmerman Red Sox, Padres, Rangers and Cardinals seem like the best trade scenarios. With that said, Cubs could offer Russell and more and probably get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 This is great news as a Sox fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 11:02 AM) Thrilled with this deal. Scherzer had replaced Johan as the pitcher I felt the Sox had no chance to defeat when on the mound. Also, doesn't hurt to have a super rotation out there in case they face Cubs in postseason. More likely to face the Sox in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) Red Sox, Padres, Rangers and Cardinals seem like the best trade scenarios. With that said, Cubs could offer Russell and more and probably get him. One would think they would like to trade him to the AL or get haunted by his presence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 10:56 AM) Is that $15 million presumably inflation adjusted so that he actually receives more than $15 million per year towards the end? From what I read, no. It's $15 million a year for 14 years. While the total payment will be $210 million, the guess is that it's worth more like $170 million in present day value. Although non-residents do not pay a state income tax in D.C., so he'll get some value back that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 12:37 PM) From what I read, no. It's $15 million a year for 14 years. While the total payment will be $210 million, the guess is that it's worth more like $170 million in present day value. Although non-residents do not pay a state income tax in D.C., so he'll get some value back that way. This is actually a good idea. In 8 years, that $15 million will be next to nothing. Your sub-par 1 WAR player might be making $8-10 million a year by then. Edited January 19, 2015 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 12:05 PM) So the sidebar to this is that the Nationals have let it be known that they plan on trading Strasburg, NOT Zimmerman Its too bad Strasburg's agent is you know who. Would love to see a Sox rotation of Sale, Shark, Q, Strasburg and Rodon. Nothing wrong with five front line starters in the rotation. Oh well, one can dream right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 02:08 PM) Its too bad Strasburg's agent is you know who. Would love to see a Sox rotation of Sale, Shark, Q, Strasburg and Rodon. Nothing wrong with five front line starters in the rotation. Oh well, one can dream right? Stras's agent has nothing to do with why that won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melissa1334 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 12:14 PM) Red Sox, Padres, Rangers and Cardinals seem like the best trade scenarios. With that said, Cubs could offer Russell and more and probably get him. If I'm the nats, the Cubs have to give up one of Bryant or soler , plus. Russell, Baez, Alcantara, almora, all suspects. Stras is the real deal and u can't botch that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 01:15 PM) Stras's agent has nothing to do with why that won't happen. I understand that Strasburg would take a haul the Sox would be unwilling to pay but I'm thinking with Boras as his agent, an extension would likely be out of the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 That's why Chris Sale is near the top of every trade value list. Seriously, imagine what he would be worth in the open market. It's also unfortunately Rodon is a Boras guy. If we could work out an extension for him in a couple of seasons, we would continue to enjoy incredible cap flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 Does this effect the next Samardijza contract in any way good or bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 02:51 PM) Does this effect the next Samardijza contract in any way good or bad? Hahn would probably think outside the box on this one too. Pay the man in bitcoins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 03:51 PM) Does this effect the next Samardijza contract in any way good or bad? They're such different level pitchers I don't believe so. This is similar to the money I though Scherzer would get, but the terms are crazy. Maybe "avoiding crazy terms" winds up impacting S a bit, but I don't know about that. Shields struggling to get a deal, waiting until at least late January, and possibly taking slightly below what people thought he'd get might have more of an impact, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted January 19, 2015 Author Share Posted January 19, 2015 I would guess this just means that either Strasburg or Zimmermann will be traded to the Tigers at some point for Steven Moya+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 19, 2015 -> 03:00 PM) They're such different level pitchers I don't believe so. This is similar to the money I though Scherzer would get, but the terms are crazy. Maybe "avoiding crazy terms" winds up impacting S a bit, but I don't know about that. Shields struggling to get a deal, waiting until at least late January, and possibly taking slightly below what people thought he'd get might have more of an impact, IMO. What's crazy about the terms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 But if Washington had maintained the status quo with its rotation -- arguably the best in the majors as it was -- the Nationals probably would've had an excellent chance to get to the postseason again. That's a tremendous group, reflected in their cumulative 20.3 WAR, and there really is no reason to think that quintet wouldn't do something close to that in 2015, or maybe even better. Fister, who turns 31 in a couple of weeks, is the oldest of the group, and seems to be getting better and better. Gonzalez is 29, Roark is 28, Zimmermann is 28 and Strasburg is 26. www.espninsider.com/busterolney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Crunched the numbers for work and in the last year of Scherzer's deal he'll be paid 1.5 times higher than league average. The equivalent for last season would be 5,804,763. Great structuring by Nats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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