ewokpelts Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 25, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) Roch Kubatko @masnRoch · 2h 2 hours ago Told latest report has Jays ending negotiations for Duquette, an Os official said "That's what, the 4th time they've said that?" If things do stall, do you guys think that KW becomes an option again? The O's were asking for Jeff Hoffman, Max Pentecost, and Mitch Nay for Duquette. I don't think KW would require that compensation but what about something like Aaron Sanchez and D.J Davis? Kenny is going nowhere. This offseason proves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 25, 2015 Share Posted January 25, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 24, 2015 -> 02:39 PM) Well, personally, I wouldn't recommend cocaine, heroin, weed or any of the other stuff, and only drink in moderation, it just isn't worth the cost... but it might help the writing. Just funning you, man. The anecdotes include drunken groping of waitresses at some of Denver's swankiest places, where he's actually been officially banned from, as well as numerous sexual harassment lawsuits against the Broncos FO, according to a woman I work closely with, who worked a long time at Dove Valley, and somehow, none of it ever even makes the local sports radio, as far as I know. And then there was this: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23663809/bron...att-russell-tom "The drunken driving incidents involving Russell and Heckert have led to a potential greater concern about the front-office culture at Dove Valley. The perception is these are a bunch of guys having a good time watching tape." "Are they perfect? No. But there are a lot of really, really, really good people working here. And to say we have a culture problem here that centers around alcohol, I just don't believe that." "Indeed, the punishment could have been more severe. According to a Colorado State Patrol report, Russell had a blood-alcohol content of .246 — more than three times the legal limit when he was arrested after he hit a Breckenridge police SUV. Heckert, a former general manager with the Philadelphia Eagles and Cleveland Browns, had a blood-alcohol content of .162 upon his release from jail seven hours after he was arrested June 11, according to the Douglas County Sheriff's Department." These guys weren't just drunk, they were Fisk/LaRussa smashed. For the locals like oldsox - If Dove Valley were in Jeffco, Elway and his boys would be doing time. A woman I dated several years ago here in Vegas knew Elway and had some similar type stories...the guy certainly wasn't above using some mind-altering substances from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 24, 2015 -> 08:06 AM) Nationals at both the major and minor league level.... You're right, I forgot about them. I would put them first and the Sox second, but I think the Sox might have more depth in the minors than Washington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jan 25, 2015 -> 09:28 PM) You're right, I forgot about them. I would put them first and the Sox second, but I think the Sox might have more depth in the minors than Washington. The best pitching prospect in the minor leagues, Lucas Giolito, is a Nat. So is A.J. Cole, who will be ready to step into the rotation by 2016. Joe Ross is a fast mover, Erick Fedde a high-end talent coming off Tommy John surgery and Reynaldo Lopez just your typical comes-outta-nowhere-throwing-100-mph right-hander. That's five potential frontline starters, and while graduating even one of them toward the top of a major league rotation would be a win, it speaks to Washington's ability to develop talent. from Jeff Passan yahoosports.com With the White Sox, you have Rodon, Montas (we could equate him to Lopez here) and Danish. Let's, for argument's sake, equate Rodon and Giolito. That still leaves Cole, Ross and another first rounder in Fedde...whereas with the Sox you've got the likes of Beck and Erik Johnson. Advantage Nationals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 25, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) Roch Kubatko @masnRoch · 2h 2 hours ago Told latest report has Jays ending negotiations for Duquette, an Os official said "That's what, the 4th time they've said that?" If things do stall, do you guys think that KW becomes an option again? The O's were asking for Jeff Hoffman, Max Pentecost, and Mitch Nay for Duquette. I don't think KW would require that compensation but what about something like Aaron Sanchez and D.J Davis? Yeah I'd let KW go for a prospect /young player or two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 25, 2015 -> 03:43 PM) Roch Kubatko @masnRoch · 2h 2 hours ago Told latest report has Jays ending negotiations for Duquette, an Os official said "That's what, the 4th time they've said that?" If things do stall, do you guys think that KW becomes an option again? The O's were asking for Jeff Hoffman, Max Pentecost, and Mitch Nay for Duquette. I don't think KW would require that compensation but what about something like Aaron Sanchez and D.J Davis? That is the kind of package that gets you a superstar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) That is the kind of package that gets you a superstar. Well is KW a superstar in the executive world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 06:38 PM) Well is KW a superstar in the executive world? as i mention in another post, i will settle for one of the 15-16-18-19 ranked player in their system. with the main interest in Richard Urena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) Well is KW a superstar in the executive world? Would you trade Chris Sale or Jose Abreu to get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 07:33 PM) Would you trade Chris Sale or Jose Abreu to get him? hahaha crazier things have happen. can you believe that tor was thinking on Hoffman as payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Would you trade Chris Sale or Jose Abreu to get him? No, there is no executive that I would trade Sale or Abreu for. Now, if I didn't already have Hahn, I would consider trading something of value for KW, but nowhere near that level of value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) Would you trade Chris Sale or Jose Abreu to get him? thinking back on this, Sale and Abreu are establish.... Balt wants prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) thinking back on this, Sale and Abreu are establish.... Balt wants prospects. Baltimore would begrudgingly take either guy if they were offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:15 AM) thinking back on this, Sale and Abreu are establish.... Balt wants prospects. The prospects that Baltimore was asking for were the type of package that gets you a superstar player. To translate it to a more transitive sense, I just replaced a couple of superstar players in there instead of the prospects, to drive home how much the Orioles were asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) The prospects that Baltimore was asking for were the type of package that gets you a superstar player. To translate it to a more transitive sense, I just replaced a couple of superstar players in there instead of the prospects, to drive home how much the Orioles were asking for. you are not going to find me or anyone counter what you are saying. you are 100% correct. but that was still what balt wanted.... i am at a lost on that demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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