caulfield12 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/boras-plan-...&ocid=yahoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Dumb. Baseball is local and regional, not national. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:32 PM) Dumb. Baseball is local and regional, not national. Therein lies the rub. Baseball is extremely profitable now, but not as popular (nationally) as it was in the 1950's and 60's. Which is more important to the long-term growth of the game? How much more can the World Series tv ratings dip before it becomes a more serious concern? It's hard to imagine the Cubs winning their first World Series in centuries in Tokyo or Mexico City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev211 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Worse idea than the no shifts idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 There is only one way his plan would work and that would be making it a one-game series. Corporations are gonna stick around for 7-10 days because of baseball? Yeah, OK. The #1 marketing concern right now for MLB should be getting rid of the blackout rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 04:49 AM) There is only one way his plan would work and that would be making it a one-game series. Corporations are gonna stick around for 7-10 days because of baseball? Yeah, OK. The #1 marketing concern right now for MLB should be getting rid of the blackout rules. i totally agree with this. ummm.... baseball should be a home town fan connection hype to that team enjoyment pleasure. the only major sport who has a neutral site is football and i think it is stupid. here is the question: which sport have the most fans in the playoff. second, baseball is the best of 7..... are they expecting fans to stick around at a neutral site, the cost will kill the fans. even basketball is a series and it too is a best of 7. Edited January 28, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Maybe if the World Series was one game...but it's a series. The only sport that has its finals in a neutral location is football and a good reason for that is because it's only one game. Edited January 28, 2015 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Boras has brought up this plan before. The season (less games), playoffs (first round best-of-7 instead of 5) and World Series (games starting earlier so people are awake to watch them end) need a bunch of improvements, but a neutral site WS isn't one of them. IIRC, Boras once recommended a best-of-9 WS as well. Weird as that would be, I would actually consider that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I always had the idea that the Wild Card round should be a best out of 3. One game at the home stadium of each team. Then, if it goes to 3 games, the deciding game should be at a neutral site (the stadium of the #1 seed). This makes it more balanced and fair. The problem of doing this, is more of a money issue than anything though. Teams/cities won't want to play on a neutral field, and fans may not go to the game at the neutral site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 08:18 AM) Boras has brought up this plan before. The season (less games), playoffs (first round best-of-7 instead of 5) and World Series (games starting earlier so people are awake to watch them end) need a bunch of improvements, but a neutral site WS isn't one of them. IIRC, Boras once recommended a best-of-9 WS as well. Weird as that would be, I would actually consider that. Yes, and that's something that could work if they reduced the LCSs to best-of-5. Start the best-of-9 WS in a neutral site on a weekend. Gm 1- Neutral site (AL team home) Gm 2- Neutral site (NL team home) Gm 3- NL city (or whoever lost the All Star Game if that still applies) Tuesday off Gm 4- AL city Gm 5- AL city Friday off Gm 6- NL city Gm 7- NL city Monday off Gm 8- AL city Gm 9- AL city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 08:48 AM) Yes, and that's something that could work if they reduced the LCSs to best-of-5. Start the best-of-9 WS in a neutral site on a weekend. Gm 1- Neutral site (AL team home) Gm 2- Neutral site (NL team home) Gm 3- NL city (or whoever lost the All Star Game if that still applies) Tuesday off Gm 4- AL city Gm 5- AL city Friday off Gm 6- NL city Gm 7- NL city Monday off Gm 8- AL city Gm 9- AL city Or just chopped a week or two off the regular season and made the first two playoff rounds best-of-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 i think the season is too long. maybe by 3 weeks. i like the idea of having a series of 3 games and of 5 games. but it is not going to happen, the owners will loose money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:03 AM) Or just chopped a week or two off the regular season and made the first two playoff rounds best-of-7. Personally, I like 162. No matter what the postseason series is, it's a small sample. I like the one game play-in, and then make the LDS and LCS both best-of-5, and the World Series best-of-7. It would tighten up the postseason more. When a team clinches the LCS early and they have to wait 5-6 days before the World Series, it takes a lot of momentum away. The World Series will go into November this year, and that's got to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:23 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/cubs/boras-plan-...&ocid=yahoo He sort of has a point, but then he loses it in the fact that this isn't the good ol days where you had to be present in an area to see a game. With TV and internet, it doesn't matter where the World Series is, it is still present in your life if you want to be. I agree we need to market the World Series as more an of event to build the game of baseball, but you don't need a neutral sight to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 27, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) There is only one way his plan would work and that would be making it a one-game series. Corporations are gonna stick around for 7-10 days because of baseball? Yeah, OK. The #1 marketing concern right now for MLB should be getting rid of the blackout rules. So totally true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) Personally, I like 162. No matter what the postseason series is, it's a small sample. I like the one game play-in, and then make the LDS and LCS both best-of-5, and the World Series best-of-7. It would tighten up the postseason more. When a team clinches the LCS early and they have to wait 5-6 days before the World Series, it takes a lot of momentum away. The World Series will go into November this year, and that's got to stop. that is why i thought the season is too long. maybe as you said, tighten it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) Personally, I like 162. No matter what the postseason series is, it's a small sample. I like the one game play-in, and then make the LDS and LCS both best-of-5, and the World Series best-of-7. It would tighten up the postseason more. When a team clinches the LCS early and they have to wait 5-6 days before the World Series, it takes a lot of momentum away. The World Series will go into November this year, and that's got to stop. I completely agree about stopping the WS from going into November. But I take the opposite side on tightening up the season vs. the postseason. I think the biggest momentum killer is clinching your division in August and then just waiting around forever for the playoffs, which could be over in three games. 90+ win teams deserve more of a buffer in the early part of the playoffs that a best-of-5 just doesn't provide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 03:22 PM) I completely agree about stopping the WS from going into November. But I take the opposite side on tightening up the season vs. the postseason. I think the biggest momentum killer is clinching your division in August and then just waiting around forever for the playoffs, which could be over in three games. 90+ win teams deserve more of a buffer in the early part of the playoffs that a best-of-5 just doesn't provide. you have a good point .... but that is not a way to deal with the momentum killer. it is not playing and waiting. the sox, i think they won something like 95+ games. lamar hoyt was the main pitcher, they won the division really early, come playoff, they got swept.,... the biggest complain then was the momentum was lost. so as i said, you do have a great point, but the playoff as it stands needs to be fixed... and not by expanding it till Nov. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I'd make the regular season 26 weeks (which it is), starting on Thursday and ending on Wednesday. That year a few years ago was cool when the regular season ended on Wednesday night. Then Game 7 of the World Series exactly 4 weeks from the end of the regular season. Baseball for 30 weeks is good enough. Opening Day- Final Day- WS Game 7 March 29-September 26-October 24 March 30-September 27-October 25 March 31-September 28-October 26 April 1- September 29-October 27 April 2-September 30-October 28 April 3-October 1-October 29 April 4-October 2-October 30 I'd rather have regular season games in March than World Series games on Halloween or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrlesque Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) I'd make the regular season 26 weeks (which it is), starting on Thursday and ending on Wednesday. That year a few years ago was cool when the regular season ended on Wednesday night. Then Game 7 of the World Series exactly 4 weeks from the end of the regular season. Baseball for 30 weeks is good enough. Opening Day- Final Day- WS Game 7 March 29-September 26-October 24 March 30-September 27-October 25 March 31-September 28-October 26 April 1- September 29-October 27 April 2-September 30-October 28 April 3-October 1-October 29 April 4-October 2-October 30 I'd rather have regular season games in March than World Series games on Halloween or later. My layout would go: Opening Day: Monday, April 6. Final Day: Friday, Sept. 18 (24 weeks, 148 or 150 games) Tiebreakers and Wildcard game over the weekend LDS: Best of 7: starts (week of) Tue. Sept. 22 LCS: Best of 7: starts ~ Oct. 1. WS: Best of 7: starts ~ Oct. 12, ends no later than Oct. 24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB23 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I don't think that the neutral site idea is that bad. I would love to see a warm weather (or domed) WS; nobody like to play in 50 degree (or lower) weather. The play would be much better in a warmer climate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:11 AM) My layout would go: Opening Day: Monday, April 6. Final Day: Friday, Sept. 18 (24 weeks, 148 or 150 games) Tiebreakers and Wildcard game over the weekend LDS: Best of 7: starts (week of) Tue. Sept. 22 LCS: Best of 7: starts ~ Oct. 1. WS: Best of 7: starts ~ Oct. 12, ends no later than Oct. 24. I just can't see the owners giving up 6-7 home dates. It's more important to MLB to have the regular season inventory than it is more postseason games. I certainly wouldn't mind if they chopped off a week and go down to 156, but it'll never happen. My preference would be: Regular season ends on Wednesday Open date for 163's on Thursday Keep it a one-game play-in on Friday (both leagues) LDS Best-of-5 (2 vs 3 series starting on Saturday; 1 vs 4 starting Sunday) LCS Best-of-5 World Series Best-of-7 (starts on Tuesday, ends on Wednesday) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The neutral site idea is awful. Fans won't buy season tix. Dull atmospheres. No civic pride puff pieces. Bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 my idea will be very radical. last of the season will be around labor day weekend. extend the wc to 3 teams, best of 3 games, regular playoff games best of 5 and WS game best of 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 06:48 AM) Yes, and that's something that could work if they reduced the LCSs to best-of-5. Start the best-of-9 WS in a neutral site on a weekend. Gm 1- Neutral site (AL team home) Gm 2- Neutral site (NL team home) Gm 3- NL city (or whoever lost the All Star Game if that still applies) Tuesday off Gm 4- AL city Gm 5- AL city Friday off Gm 6- NL city Gm 7- NL city Monday off Gm 8- AL city Gm 9- AL city The WS once was a best of 9 series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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