almagest Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The Cubs are ranked #1 Anyone have insider that can list the rankings, and maybe summarize his description of the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 White Sox 12th. First top-half finish in a long time. But we cannot be putting in large parts of the article here. People can summarize in their own words, or do little quotes or snippets. But we can't go pasting large parts of billable content here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 12 huh? I'm impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 The big thing to think about is that these are subjective rankings and it would stand to reason that Law values having high end talent - I'm guessing his top 4 for the Sox are Rodon, Anderson, Montas, and Adams - as opposed to having an abundance of depth. Kylie McDaniel has touched on a lot of this at FanGraphs - is a system better having four potential 3-6 WAR players throughout the minors with little beyond that or is it better to have ten or so 2-4 WAR players, some of whom won't play full time and some who will likely play in the minors, thus limiting their overall value but all the while maintaining value both as a trade chip and as a plug and play option? It's a valid point and is worthy of debate. Typically I'd take the elite talent because it's a lot harder to find and accumulate, but there's no wrong answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 It seems like a snippet to me, but please feel free to delete this post if you think it's too much: 12. Chicago White Sox They've added four players within the top-120 range of prospects in the past 24 months, via the draft and one trade, and they didn't give up any of those premium guys to add Jeff Samardzija this offseason. Although the system still isn't deep in average prospects, it is in the best shape it has been since I started ranking organizations seven years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) I think that blurb sums up everything pretty well. EDIT: and good call Wite, he's definitely talking about Rodon, Anderson, Montas and Adams there. Edited January 28, 2015 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) They've added four players within the top-120 range so the 4 added in the top 120 would be..... Rodon, Montas, Anderson..... Adams? Edited January 28, 2015 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 11:55 AM) so the 4 added in the top 120 would be..... Rodon, Montas, Anderson..... Adams? Gotta be. The fourth COULD be Micah Johnson, but I don't think Law is high on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:50 AM) I think that blurb sums up everything pretty well. EDIT: and good call Wite, he's definitely talking about Rodon, Anderson, Montas and Adams there. Yeah that's the big 4. There MAY be a T100 list from someone who could have Micah, or even Tyler Danish, but it would be the outlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) Gotta be. The fourth COULD be Micah Johnson, but I don't think Law is high on him. He was drafted more than 2 years ago though. It's definitely Rodon, Anderson, Montas and Adams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 i guess this ends that notion that K.Law was biased against the Sox. This seems like we were ranked too high (not that i'm dedicated to this study night and day, etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmartija Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 i would hope that getting a full draft of #4 pick (per round, generally speaking) would bump us much higher in the farm standings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) It seems like a snippet to me, but please feel free to delete this post if you think it's too much: Very encouraging to see. I think this year can be the year where some of our younger players (Martinez, Guerrero, Rondon, Wendelken,) will take a leap and be much better than average towards the end of our farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) i guess this ends that notion that K.Law was biased against the Sox. This seems like we were ranked too high (not that i'm dedicated to this study night and day, etc) Maybe he doesn't anymore, but when KW was getting the credit, IMO, he did. KW can rub people the wrong way. It is the biggest reason Schueler reccommended Dan Evans as his replacement over KW. I think he rubbed Law the wrong way, and Law had a tough time letting it go. That said, farm system rankings are about as valuable as attendance trophies. What really matters is what other teams think, if you are going to trade them, and what they really are if you plan on keeping them. Edited January 28, 2015 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:33 AM) White Sox 12th. First top-half finish in a long time. But we cannot be putting in large parts of the article here. People can summarize in their own words, or do little quotes or snippets. But we can't go pasting large parts of billable content here. Yeah, I understand that, which is why I mentioned a summary of the Sox + the ranking list. I figured that would be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Though Im pretty sure he is referring to Adams, I seem to remember Law having some incredibly positive words regarding Danish late last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Where was everyone else in the Central ranked? Tigers 30th or so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 12:26 PM) Where was everyone else in the Central ranked? Tigers 30th or so? Tigers are 30th. Twins were 2nd. White Sox are #12. Kansas City and Cleveland are 15th and 16th respectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 I think that Law will have Rodon, Montas, Anderson, and Micah in his top 100. He will also have 1 more guy either Danish/Adams that falls into that 100-120 range. He said earlier in offseason that he'd have 4 top 100 guys. I think he just meant that they added 4 top 120ish guys. Didn't say those were the only ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 waking up and reading this, about the system being 12th, and 4 player in the 120. nice... i like the idea of Rodon, Anderson, Montas, and here is where it gets dicey. Adams, M Johnson and even Danish. i am liking Adams, Johnson may have the tools, but his lack of hitting last yr.... Danish... he is steady. now i am still high on Jace Fry. another yr in developing... well that is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:48 AM) It seems like a snippet to me, but please feel free to delete this post if you think it's too much: It could also have been referring to Davidson and Avisail Garcia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 11:57 AM) Gotta be. The fourth COULD be Micah Johnson, but I don't think Law is high on him. Considering MLB.com has Micah as the #2 second base prospect in baseball, I'd think he is that 4th one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:45 PM) Micah wouldn't fit the preceding criterion. While he most definitely could be in Law's top 120, he would be at least the 5th with Anderson, Montas, Rodon and Adams being the first four. Perhaps Danish over Adams but I doubt it considering what I've seen Law say about both of them. Ah yes, I see that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 03:45 AM) Micah wouldn't fit the preceding criterion. While he most definitely could be in Law's top 120, he would be at least the 5th with Anderson, Montas, Rodon and Adams being the first four. Perhaps Danish over Adams but I doubt it considering what I've seen Law say about both of them. IIRC, Law said during the season that Johnson was going to be a top 100 prospect after the year. However, I know he's not counting him in the 4 in the last two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Law's Top 100 should be released today. I'll predict 4 White Sox: Rodon in the teens, Anderson in the 30's, Montas in the 70's and Micah Johnson in the 90's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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