Melissa1334 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 02:54 PM) i too would have love to have Ichiro. i really don't want to jinks anyone but i am not convince that Garcia can go a whole season without injury of some sort. with the lineup the sox have now, Bonifacio is the cf and leadoff if Eaton gets hurt. Assuming they're healthy though, they all were going to play everyday. Not sure ichiro would like the idea of playing once a week maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 12:54 PM) i too would have love to have Ichiro. i really don't want to jinks anyone but i am not convince that Garcia can go a whole season without injury of some sort. with the lineup the sox have now, Bonifacio is the cf and leadoff if Eaton gets hurt. I hope Micah can come out and be pretty good from the start cause I don't love the idea of Bonifacio getting significant AB's and being our leadoff hitter. And we should just assume Eaton is going to have a stint on the DL (until he proves us otherwise). That said, if he wants to replicate that season he had with Florida a few years ago and put up a .360 OBP, I'd be okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 How did Quentin come up? Even if he could still play the outfield, the Sox have Cabrera and Garcia in the corners, and then DH is covered by Abreu/LaRoche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) Assuming they're healthy though, they all were going to play everyday. Not sure ichiro would like the idea of playing once a week maybe? esp when he is only hanging around for the 3,000 hit club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) I hope Micah can come out and be pretty good from the start cause I don't love the idea of Bonifacio getting significant AB's and being our leadoff hitter. And we should just assume Eaton is going to have a stint on the DL (until he proves us otherwise). That said, if he wants to replicate that season he had with Florida a few years ago and put up a .360 OBP, I'd be okay with that. i don't know why, but i still have faith in him to produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) How did Quentin come up? Even if he could still play the outfield, the Sox have Cabrera and Garcia in the corners, and then DH is covered by Abreu/LaRoche. The disabled list needs some bodies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Pssh don't tell me we don't have enough quality MLB outfielders...HELLO, Brian Anderson! Edited January 28, 2015 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:01 PM) Pssh don't tell me we don't have enough quality MLB outfielders...HELLO, Brian Anderson! ahhh is this suppose to be green or are you serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Crazy as it sounds, you could actually argue that Quentin makes some sense for this team right now! Yeah, I think Mrs. Hickory Huskers was wanting Beckham and Quentin more for her viewing pleasure than their impact on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:14 PM) Yeah, I think Mrs. Hickory Huskers was wanting Beckham and Quentin more for her viewing pleasure than their impact on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Beckham's role on this team is totally redundant with Bonifacio unless the plan is to have one or the other start in the infield. C Flowers 1B Abreu 2B Sanchez 3B Gillaspie SS Alexei LF Melky CF Eaton RF Avisail DH LaRoche BN Backup catcher BN Bonifacio BN Backup OF BN Beckham SP Sale SP Q SP Samardzija SP Danks SP Noesi RP RP RP RP RP RP RP 7 relievers, doesn't matter who. That's 12 pitchers and then you dedicate your bench to two guys who are iffy bats but play the IF. Beckham has a worse bat, possibly worse glove, and is not remotely useful as a baserunner outside of just getting your slowest guy off the field. To me, he only makes sense if you want no rookie 2B on the roster. Then, you need a guy like Viciedo to give you some kind of bat off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 03:57 PM) How did Quentin come up? Even if he could still play the outfield, the Sox have Cabrera and Garcia in the corners, and then DH is covered by Abreu/LaRoche. I think most people thought that if Viciedo made the team, he would DH vs LHP with LaRoche sitting (and pinch hitting). So TCQ could now fill that role. Edited January 28, 2015 by GREEDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Bonifacio will be needed to fill in in the OF to give guys days off. Gordon will be the de facto backup utility IF, 25th man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:22 PM) Bonifacio will be needed to fill in in the OF to give guys days off. Gordon will be the de facto backup utility IF, 25th man. with DV gone, that is how i see it. i really hope this team stays healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/560548838566801409 10 days to trade Viciedo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 09:26 PM) https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/560548838566801409 10 days to trade Viciedo. nice... how bout anything on a SP??? jk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 03:06 PM) Kirk Hinrich hit that three last night so maybe Gordon can contribute vs. lefties QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 03:59 PM) The disabled list needs some bodies Two fantastic post-of-the-year candidates, lol. Didn't think about that, did you, wite? We have MI depth but we don't have any DL depth. TCQ provides that IN SPADES, as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 You suck Beckham. How the hell did he get 2 million? Is that really the going rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) Ichiro and Saladino looks a lot better than Beckham and Shuck. I don't know that Shuck is making the roster, but those honestly don't look that different to me. Frankly, it's $2 mill, and if Beckham isn't hitting and Saladino is, I doubt the Sox will have any second guesses about DFA'ing Beckham too. It provides them a veteran player coming off a year where he hit lefties particularly well. He seems like a good guy to have in the clubhouse too. To me, the big deal that people are making about this is that Gordon Beckham had a long tenure as a 2B with the Sox and it's basically "too soon" to have a reunion, even if it's a small role. If he had a different name and hadn't played for the Sox, we'd be saying "Huh, nice addition, not a big deal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 for the record, when we had Beckham and were paying him $5mill, he was easily worth that on defense alone. I'm not saying I'm a fan of the move, but he had value when he was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:40 PM) I don't disgree but there is an opportunity cost associated with that 2 million. I would much prefer Denorfia/Ichiro when Eaton ends up on the DL. Beckham brings what Bonifacio can already do. Saladino can very likely do what Beckham can do. As far as the last part, you're right and I think it says a lot about what the White Sox think about GB as a person. unless this was thought to be a fan move, a PR move for something they are going to do, or not to do. this looks so much of a sox move. this is the best i can explain it, a gut feeling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Hawkfan @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 05:30 PM) You suck Beckham. How the hell did he get 2 million? Is that really the going rate? It is. WAR on the FA market is almost at 8 million per WAR. For a .5 WAR player like Beckham, 2 million is fair value. edit: when you are talking about the 25th man, there is little "opportunity cost". If the 25th man gets more than 150 PA, something went horribly wrong anyways. No team plans on having the 25th man as anything more than plan D. Edited January 28, 2015 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 28, 2015 -> 10:48 PM) It is. WAR on the FA market is almost at 8 million per WAR. For a .5 WAR player like Beckham, 2 million is fair value. edit: when you are talking about the 25th man, there is little "opportunity cost". If the 25th man gets more than 150 PA, something went horribly wrong anyways. No team plans on having the 25th man as anything more than plan D. and that goes to show salary has become sooo crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Jon Morosi @jonmorosi 16m16 minutes ago Two possible fits for Dayan Viciedo: Rangers and Mariners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Dan Hayes @CSNHayes 51m51 minutes ago Rick Hahn: We’ve put ourselves in a place where we’re decently insulated against the unexpected and have some flexibility to just 1/2 Rick Hahn 2/2: take the guy who we feel in the end is going to help us win the most ballgames, not necessarily cover a position of need. Scott Merkin @scottmerkin 54m54 minutes ago Hahn: "Again it’s about having a flexible roster, one that allows Robin to exploit matchups whenever they present themselves to him ... More Hahn: ".. At the same time, we have insurance policies if things should not go entirely according to plan." Daryl Van Schouwen @CST_soxvan 1h1 hour ago Hahn "will flush out interest" in Viciedo and "find him a better home. It won't surprise us if he has a very successful career elsewhere." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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