SJB23 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) Envision a rotation of Sale, Szamardija, Quintana, Shields, Rodon! All of a sudden, October baseball becomes a reality! Get 'er done, Rick. Edited January 29, 2015 by Stev-o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I can think of about one hundred million hang ups personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I think this would have had a good chance of happening if the Samardijza deal didn't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Shields is bad. Do not want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I wonder if Alexei could still be available to a team like the Mets, who have a real need for SS. With Syndergaard in the wings, they could move a starter. But it would probably be Gee who's a 3 at best, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 12:27 PM) I wonder if Alexei could still be available to a team like the Mets, who have a real need for SS. With Syndergaard in the wings, they could move a starter. But it would probably be Gee who's a 3 at best, imo. Maybe at the beginning of the winter a scenario like that could happen, but after this winter, the only chance Alexei leaves Chicago now is if the Sox flop this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) Shields is bad. Do not want. Shields is a really good starting pitcher, so saying he is bad is wrong. I just don't think, given the current construction of the White Sox, that he is a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 at 5 yrs, no, at 4 maybe.... 3 most definitely. even if he doesn't do good in the playoff, at least he is added insurance for injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not sure where he ends up, but I think it will end up being 3 years guaranteed, with a vesting option for a 4th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Stev-o @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:12 PM) Envision a rotation of Sale, Szamardija, Quintana, Shields, Rodon! All of a sudden, October baseball becomes a reality! Get 'er done, Rick. The hang up is the immense distance between his market value and his value to our team. Also, that's the furthest I've ever seen the 'z' away from its correct location in 'Samardzija' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) I wonder if Alexei could still be available to a team like the Mets, who have a real need for SS. With Syndergaard in the wings, they could move a starter. But it would probably be Gee who's a 3 at best, imo. I don't understand. Their shortstop had a 2.4 WAR last year. It's not a weakness for them. Their SS is as good as Alexei for waaaaay less money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I don't understand. Their shortstop had a 2.4 WAR last year. It's not a weakness for them. Their SS is as good as Alexei for waaaaay less money. They don't seem to think so as they have been in rumors trying to acquire a proven SS. Of course, they are rumors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 02:16 PM) I don't understand. Their shortstop had a 2.4 WAR last year. It's not a weakness for them. Their SS is as good as Alexei for waaaaay less money. There is a TON of skepticism of how well Flores can actually handle SS over a representative sample. He's done well so far, but everyone agrees that he's done so against the odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I don't understand. Their shortstop had a 2.4 WAR last year. It's not a weakness for them. Their SS is as good as Alexei for waaaaay less money. Tejada is not a real good SS and there are big time concerns with Flores' defense there, even though the numbers translated well at the MLB level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmartija Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 for the sox SP need (#4, #5) Shields is a poor use of money. I would like it, but it is financially overkill...that and I think he'd get lit up at US Cell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 With the money they'll be tossing at Jeff and eventually Sale/Q, it's a better idea to hope one of Beck/Danish/Montas/EJ/Adams develops quickly and takes the fifth spot for cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisox05 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Reddy @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) I don't understand. Their shortstop had a 2.4 WAR last year. It's not a weakness for them. Their SS is as good as Alexei for waaaaay less money. What shortstop for them had a 2.4 war. Ruben tejada had a 1.3 war and wilmer flores had a .2 war according to baseball reference. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tejadru01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/florewi01.shtml Edited January 29, 2015 by WhiteSoxLifer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'd love it, but it ain't happenin'. If he gets $100M, who ever gives him that is going to be disappointed. If it fell into the three years / $60M-$70M range, then I'd be VERY interested, but its not my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) What shortstop for them had a 2.4 war. Ruben tejada had a 1.3 war and wilmer flores had a .2 war according to baseball reference. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/tejadru01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/florewi01.shtml Sorry that's the projection from the typically conservative BP. My mistake. Projected to be better than Alexei. Of course it doesn't mean anything yet, but he's much younger and a tenth of Alexei's price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB23 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Armchair Hahn @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) for the sox SP need (#4, #5) Shields is a poor use of money. I would like it, but it is financially overkill...that and I think he'd get lit up at US Cell. As opposed to Noesi and/or Danks who'll get lit up ALL the time?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Well the hangup is money. Happy I could help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB23 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 03:15 PM) Well the hangup is money. Happy I could help. JR has the money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB23 Posted January 29, 2015 Author Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) I'd love it, but it ain't happenin'. If he gets $100M, who ever gives him that is going to be disappointed. If it fell into the three years / $60M-$70M range, then I'd be VERY interested, but its not my money. I bet he won't get more than 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (Stev-o @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) Envision a rotation of Sale, Szamardija, Quintana, Shields, Rodon! All of a sudden, October baseball becomes a reality! Get 'er done, Rick. He wants $20 mill a year for c. 5 years. He had a bad post season. 2 of his last 3 seasons have been nothing special. 4 of our top 6 prospects are pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jan 29, 2015 -> 11:30 PM) He wants $20 mill a year for c. 5 years. He had a bad post season. 2 of his last 3 seasons have been nothing special. 4 of our top 6 prospects are pitchers. but none ready to carry a heavy workload let alone pitch extremely well in a playoff hunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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