caulfield12 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) http://m.mlb.com/video/v37188373/buddy-bel...150129_39636747 Takes some blame for pushing Hawkins too fast. Talks mostly about Rodon, Micah and Saladino. Asked if there is a new emphasis on speed in the org...says he still prefers power. Nothing much about Anderson. Nice video montage of Sox rookies. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/107841198/ch...on-as-favorites Another Merkin puff piece. Edited January 30, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) http://m.mlb.com/video/v37188373/buddy-bel...150129_39636747 Takes some blame for pushing Hawkins too fast. Talks mostly about Rodon, Micah and Saladino. Asked if there is a new emphasis on speed in the org...says he still prefers power. Nothing much about Anderson. Nice video montage of Sox rookies. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/107841198/ch...on-as-favorites Another Merkin puff piece. it is a nice pr kind of getting the hype out there. for the normal fans outside these forums, that will be exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) Takes some blame for pushing Hawkins too fast. Been waiting a year to hear that now. I wasn't posting here when that quote about giving Hawkins an "attitude adjustment" or whatever came out, but it nearly sent me on a rampage. What a ridiculous way to handle one of your top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I speak for all White Sox fans when I say that, I want Bell out of the FO. Edited January 31, 2015 by Joshua Strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) I speak for all White b Sox fans when I say that I want Bell out of the FO. Nice guy, though. In the Reinsdorf Ring of Loyalty as Flavum so eloquently put it. Will be tough to move out, but moving him at least completely away from personnel would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Please don't tell me he brought up Jared Mitchell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooftop Shots Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 07:15 AM) http://m.mlb.com/video/v37188373/buddy-bel...150129_39636747 Takes some blame for pushing Hawkins too fast. Talks mostly about Rodon, Micah and Saladino. Asked if there is a new emphasis on speed in the org...says he still prefers power. Nothing much about Anderson. Nice video montage of Sox rookies. http://m.mlb.com/news/article/107841198/ch...on-as-favorites Another Merkin puff piece. thanks for posting the video. Turned on the TV on MLB network and just missed the interview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 The absolute best lessons in life and work are learned through complete failure. So I for one am glad the CH got exposed. Clearly he needed to learn that his swing/eye won't play up levels. Back to the drawing board kid. I'm not against what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 06:28 PM) Nice guy, though. In the Reinsdorf Ring of Loyalty as Flavum so eloquently put it. Will be tough to move out, but moving him at least completely away from personnel would be nice. He's a good guy do deal with the media but I do not want him to have anything to do with making baseball decisions. I think that the Sox should promote Jeremey Haber, who is Hahn's right hand man and assistant to Ast. GM and Bell should be a special assistant like Thome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 10:37 PM) He's a good guy do deal with the media but I do not want him to have anything to do with making baseball decisions. I think that the Sox should promote Jeremey Haber, who is Hahn's right hand man and assistant to Ast. GM and Bell should be a special assistant like Thome. Bell was the guy that said no to Williams when he was offered the manager job in 2011. And thome is the guy that they will hire after ventura gets fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 I don't believe they can afford to take that chance with a completely inexperienced manager again. That definitely wasn't one of his better interviews. He should have redirected and taken the opportunity to discuss Anderson, Montas and Adams, the three breakthrough players from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 31, 2015 Author Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 10:37 PM) He's a good guy do deal with the media but I do not want him to have anything to do with making baseball decisions. I think that the Sox should promote Jeremey Haber, who is Hahn's right hand man and assistant to Ast. GM and Bell should be a special assistant like Thome. He's not ready. Read this. It's a pretty amazing/cool story, but he's not prepared to do talent evaluation yet. The White Sox had another guy, Mike Gellinger, working with video and advance scouting but I believe he encountered some health problems. They even had him coach Third or First a couple of times as a fill-in. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-...er-assistant-gm Edited January 31, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 30, 2015 -> 11:32 PM) I don't believe they can afford to take that chance with a completely inexperienced manager again. That definitely wasn't one of his better interviews. He should have redirected and taken the opportunity to discuss Anderson, Montas and Adams, the three breakthrough players from last year. When the owner says "jim thome will be a manager one day", that's when you know he's ventura's replacement. That said, I wish bell took the job in 2011. I belive they would have made the postseason in 2012 with a veteran manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) When the owner says "jim thome will be a manager one day", that's when you know he's ventura's replacement. That said, I wish bell took the job in 2011. I belive they would have made the postseason in 2012 with a veteran manager. Do you think a veteran manager would have prevented all the injuries or created a makeshift bench with more talent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 08:10 AM) When the owner says "jim thome will be a manager one day", that's when you know he's ventura's replacement. That said, I wish bell took the job in 2011. I belive they would have made the postseason in 2012 with a veteran manager. Bell was a veteran manager in Colorado and KC. All 3 of his stops which includes Detroit, the team won more games the year before he managed, and the year after he left than they did when he was managing, Maybe it is a coincidence, but listening to what he had to say abiut clear busts, would make one think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Jan 31, 2015 -> 09:10 AM) When the owner says "jim thome will be a manager one day", that's when you know he's ventura's replacement. If that's the case, why is Thome wasting time in this nebulous "special assistant" position he's in and instead learning the finer points of the craft by managing one of the team's minor league teams? Must the only criteria for a White Sox manager be simply "Former Sox player/Reinsdorf favorite/no prior managerial experience"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Feb 1, 2015 -> 06:33 PM) If that's the case, why is Thome wasting time in this nebulous "special assistant" position he's in and instead learning the finer points of the craft by managing one of the team's minor league teams? Must the only criteria for a White Sox manager be simply "Former Sox player/Reinsdorf favorite/no prior managerial experience"? He probably feels as if he does not need that miinor league experience, that he will get that experience in his first year or two of managing in the big leagues. I agree with your recommendation, but baseball's stars don't feel that way anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 2, 2015 Author Share Posted February 2, 2015 Jim Thome doesn't strike me as someone who would be naturally arrogant enough to think he would be well-prepared to manage without any minor league experience. The thing is, if Ventura "fails" this year, you can't turn around and do the same exact thing...hiring another totally inexperienced guy, that would be borderline insane for Hahn after the work he's put into building this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 2, 2015 Share Posted February 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 2, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) Jim Thome doesn't strike me as someone who would be naturally arrogant enough to think he would be well-prepared to manage without any minor league experience. The thing is, if Ventura "fails" this year, you can't turn around and do the same exact thing...hiring another totally inexperienced guy, that would be borderline insane for Hahn after the work he's put into building this team. that is if many are expecting Thome to be a manager. i was shock to see Robin V hired as manager, so it might happen again. but, no one is going to change JR mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Double-A will present a greater challenge for the 21-year-old outfielder — at that level, “you better know your swing,” Capra said — but if he’s able to pass the tests in Birmingham, it’ll be at that point he can finally start thinking about making his major league debut. “They have a plan,” Hawkins said. “Whatever their plan is, we gotta go along with it. We gotta buy into it. We gotta trust into it and go with it.” Not sure we should be in love with that quote...but being optimistic/hopeful. www.csnchicago.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:34 AM) Double-A will present a greater challenge for the 21-year-old outfielder — at that level, “you better know your swing,” Capra said — but if he’s able to pass the tests in Birmingham, it’ll be at that point he can finally start thinking about making his major league debut. “They have a plan,” Hawkins said. “Whatever their plan is, we gotta go along with it. We gotta buy into it. We gotta trust into it and go with it.” Not sure we should be in love with that quote...but being optimistic/hopeful. www.csnchicago.com I think a lot has to go right for Hawkins to be anywhere near the player many of thought he had a chance to be coming into 2013. I doubt he is any better than Viciedo offensively. Probably much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 10:41 AM) I think a lot has to go right for Hawkins to be anywhere near the player many of thought he had a chance to be coming into 2013. I doubt he is any better than Viciedo offensively. Probably much worse. I said stuff like that 18 months ago; now there are two of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (oldsox @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 02:00 PM) I said stuff like that 18 months ago; now there are two of us. To be fair you pretty much hate everyone born after 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 05:37 PM) To be fair you pretty much hate everyone born after 1970. Fair? Hate? Look at yourownself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 07:34 AM) Double-A will present a greater challenge for the 21-year-old outfielder — at that level, “you better know your swing,” Capra said — but if he’s able to pass the tests in Birmingham, it’ll be at that point he can finally start thinking about making his major league debut. “They have a plan,” Hawkins said. “Whatever their plan is, we gotta go along with it. We gotta buy into it. We gotta trust into it and go with it.” Not sure we should be in love with that quote...but being optimistic/hopeful. www.csnchicago.com that quote to me. is a statement of reinforcement. it is like "i trust in what the sox have in stored for me and i am letting anyone and everyone i believe in what they want me to do". pretty much like a loyal soldier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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