Eminor3rd Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 12:03 PM) And how many homers did all of those names combine for in 2014? Dyson and Gore have almost no pop. Rios had 4 homers last season. This whole "but Viciedo has 20 homer power" thing is a quintessential example of how NOT to use statistics. He's a substantially below average hitter no matter how he arrives at his level of "productivity." Adding homers at the expense of overall production would be ludicrously stupid. It would be like eating dandelions instead of steak because the dandelions have more vitamin C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Your browser does not support iframes. Just want to post this because I saw it live (on TV) and it was awesome. Also, who is that bum that gave up the home run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) Your browser does not support iframes. Just want to post this because I saw it live (on TV) and it was awesome. Also, who is that bum that gave up the home run? The first game I went to in 2013 was won by a Dayan Viciedo walk off homer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Reminds me of the LTP.. Borch could crush if he got a hold of one.. problem was he seldom did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) Your browser does not support iframes. Just want to post this because I saw it live (on TV) and it was awesome. Also, who is that bum that gave up the home run? So basically we should have kept Dayan and never signed Robertson. Edited February 5, 2015 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Lttle ditty bout" Jackin' Dayan , a Cuban kid playin' ball in the heartland. Dayan's gonna be a baseball star. Wait, no ,Dayan ,he ain't goin' far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asindc Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 04:08 PM) This whole "but Viciedo has 20 homer power" thing is a quintessential example of how NOT to use statistics. He's a substantially below average hitter no matter how he arrives at his level of "productivity." Adding homers at the expense of overall production would be ludicrously stupid. It would be like eating dandelions instead of steak because the dandelions have more vitamin C. I laughed at the dandelion-steak analogy. It's on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asindc Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 04:24 PM) Reminds me of the LTP.. Borch could crush if he got a hold of one.. problem was he seldom did. Same difference as post above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (asindc @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 09:42 PM) I laughed at the dandelion-steak analogy. It's on point. Welcome to the forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) Lttle ditty bout" Jackin' Dayan , a Cuban kid playin' ball in the heartland. Dayan's gonna be a baseball star. Wait, no ,Dayan ,he ain't goin' far. Well done. I guessed wrong on Tank. I thought he would have SOME trade value but nope, not even jack could help Dayan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) Obviously the Sox want no part of Dayan anymore. I credit him for hitting a few bombs. But with his excess weight, lousy lousy defense and inability to do anything but hit those 20 bombs a season, he's worthless if that's the right word. I just loved those homers he hit. Rockets. Don't know the guy. Don't know if he's uncoachable, but I'm guessing "he is what he is" and has no intention of doing anything but swinging balls out at every pitch near the strike zone, rarely walking and giving a rat's ass about defense. Somebody with a hitter friendly park (yes I know we have one) ought to give him a chance if they are desperate for a DH. Edited February 6, 2015 by greg775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 There's some Nelson Cruz to Viciedo's game, so maybe he puts it together some day, but it wasn't going to be with the Sox. Had this offseason not come together the way it has, he would have gotten another shot here, but he didn't and now he'll try it somewhere else. He has the talent to put it together. I don't think he ever will. Guys with peak hit tools of a 40 or so (and it's probably a 30 right now, meaning well below average) don't usually make it except as a bench player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) Lttle ditty bout" Jackin' Dayan , a Cuban kid playin' ball in the heartland. Dayan's gonna be a baseball star. Wait, no ,Dayan ,he ain't goin' far. Jackin Dayan one was of my favorite twitter lines ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I kind of hope we can get him back on a minor league deal. I'd rather see him in Charlotte than Michael Taylor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 09:16 AM) There's some Nelson Cruz to Viciedo's game, so maybe he puts it together some day, but it wasn't going to be with the Sox. Had this offseason not come together the way it has, he would have gotten another shot here, but he didn't and now he'll try it somewhere else. He has the talent to put it together. I don't think he ever will. Guys with peak hit tools of a 40 or so (and it's probably a 30 right now, meaning well below average) don't usually make it except as a bench player. I'll still gladly take Viciedo over Beckham to have more homers from 2015 until the end of their respective careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) I'll still gladly take Viciedo over Beckham to have more homers from 2015 until the end of their respective careers. I will also gladly take Adam Eaton to steal more bases from this point forward than Jose Abreu. I don't understand your point, considering Beckham is not a power hitter, nor do I see how this is relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 09:44 AM) I'll still gladly take Viciedo over Beckham to have more homers from 2015 until the end of their respective careers. Lol I don't see how any sane person would argue with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 10:44 AM) I'll still gladly take Viciedo over Beckham to have more homers from 2015 until the end of their respective careers. Again, so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) If he drops weight, improves his defense and offense, he'll find a job... Edited February 6, 2015 by pettie4sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) If he drops weights, improves his defense and offense, he'll find a job... As long as he does not drop those weights on his toes. And if he does, I hope he's being a girlyman and only doing 10 pound curls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) As long as he does not drop those weights on his toes. And if he does, I hope he's being a girlyman and only doing 10 pound curls. Fair play mate. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) If he drops weight, improves his defense and offense, he'll find a job... But other than that, he is doing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 11:19 AM) If he drops weight, improves his defense and offense, he'll find a job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJB23 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 5, 2015 -> 07:31 PM) Lttle ditty bout" Jackin' Dayan , a Cuban kid playin' ball in the heartland. Dayan's gonna be a baseball star. Wait, no ,Dayan ,he ain't goin' far. Well played! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Rome Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 baseball has been very very good to Diane V. how much has he made in the last 4 or 5 years? More than enough to go back to Havana and sit on his front porch and eat tacos and get big and fat and live like a king. thanks, douglas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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