RockRaines Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 13, 2015 -> 09:37 AM) Are these guys just soft? Beckman isn't really known as a wildly tough coach, every football coach will get in your face at some point but from accounts he isn't the hardest out there by far. So does it really come down to that a lot of players don't respect Beckman, especially those who weren't recruited by him? I think that's more the issue, and this other stuff happened at some level and Simon wanted to use that to gain an edge on him. Some of the things reported, like the purple injury jerseys, are stupid and seem like a typical Beckman move that needs to go. I dont think what he's doing is very unusual but I think there isnt a lot of respect for him with some of the older guys. I know when he sent coaches to PSU to poach players that he lost some respect with the current roster. Not sure if that weighs in here. Threatening kids in many different ways happens across all D1 sports so its not something that is unique to this situation, the players speaking out is kind of a bad sign though. Maybe it will end his career at Illinois which is what most fans want anyway (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I would fire Beckman for a million different reasons, but even I don't want him gone for this. Anyways, the kid is digging his own grave on Twitter and has gone completely off the deep end. I hope he gets the mental help he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10...=0002&abg=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 13, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10...=0002&abg=1 I wonder if that Texas map will change now that they are the 4th best team in state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 I wonder if that Texas map will change now that they are the 4th best team in state. No, just like the Michigan map will never change no matter how many years MSU is better than UM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 This is a good overview of what I've read/heard regarding the Simon situation and my feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 13, 2015 -> 01:27 PM) No, just like the Michigan map will never change no matter how many years MSU is better than UM Good comparison. Harbaugh better sign some players or he is going to be under MSU awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 13, 2015 -> 02:19 PM) Good comparison. Harbaugh better sign some players or he is going to be under MSU awhile. 2016 class is looking solid if the kids stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ May 13, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) 2016 class is looking solid if the kids stick. Not really. Harbaugh isn't recruiting as well as Michigan should. They will end up with at best the third best class in the conference at this pace. Maybe even fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) Brandon Peters and Falcon should both be 5 stars by the time they sign. Plus 3 other 4 stars verbals so far. Of course winning 8 games next year would help. Edited May 13, 2015 by Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 13, 2015 Share Posted May 13, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ May 13, 2015 -> 06:21 PM) Brandon Peters and Falcon should both be 5 stars by the time they sign. Plus 3 other 4 stars verbals so far. Of course winning 8 games next year would help. Those two aren't even top 100 guys on scout. That's a stretch to say they are five stars to be. Right now Michigan needs to do a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Hey, Iowa State actually has a real stadium! When it's finished, capacity will sit around 61k. Third biggest in the Big 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 Someone who follows Illinois football way more than I do, what's with this Beckman/player accusation crap? My twitter feed has been loaded the last few days and it all seems to suggest the player quit the team and is making s*** up. Is that the general consensus? Seems like a lot of players/ex-players are tweeting stuff today in support of Beckman and his staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 14, 2015 -> 11:24 AM) Someone who follows Illinois football way more than I do, what's with this Beckman/player accusation crap? My twitter feed has been loaded the last few days and it all seems to suggest the player quit the team and is making s*** up. Is that the general consensus? Seems like a lot of players/ex-players are tweeting stuff today in support of Beckman and his staff. a lot of back and forth, from what i am hearing on the Score and reading on twitter. There was a story out of Toledo that had some of his ex players confirming some of what Simon said, and there is a lot of circling the wagons by current staff and players. Cvijanovich said they basically went over his head and had doctors remove part of his meniscus so that he could play sooner, and he didnt find out until after the surgery. He also has stated that the Illini employed(i thought he said still employ) a head trainer that isnt certified. Its ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 14, 2015 -> 11:39 AM) a lot of back and forth, from what i am hearing on the Score and reading on twitter. There was a story out of Toledo that had some of his ex players confirming some of what Simon said, and there is a lot of circling the wagons by current staff and players. Cvijanovich said they basically went over his head and had doctors remove part of his meniscus so that he could play sooner, and he didnt find out until after the surgery. He also has stated that the Illini employed(i thought he said still employ) a head trainer that isnt certified. Its ugly I don't buy the part about his meniscus at all and if it is true, he should be filing a claim against the surgeon, not the university. The fact is that he admitted that he has talked to lawyers and none of them will take his case which to me indicates that there are a lot of issues with his story because if there was any merit to this I can't imagine he would have a hard time finding a lawyer, particularly with respect to the surgery issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 I guess I read the accusations as a disgruntled ex-player who was pissed that the coaches yelled at him for not playing hurt and/or pressuring him to play before he felt ready. If that's the case, isn't that going on in every single football program in the country? It all seems like sour grapes to me, although obviously he's now caused a s*** storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Everett Golson to Florida State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 19, 2015 -> 01:28 PM) Everett Golson to Florida State Never been a huge fan, but he's definitely better than what FSU currently has. Very talented but young group of WRs there so we'll see how they gel in just one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Looks like Braxton Miller may have had a setback with his shoulder, yet another reason why he was never going to transfer. His career is definitely in trouble at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Big Ten Talk @CSNBigTen 7m7 minutes ago Report: Investigations costing #Illini up to $425 an hour -- http://bit.ly/1GGBXNf #B1G #B1GTalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 There seems to be a "punching women in the face" epidemic down in Tallahassee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 10, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) There seems to be a "punching women in the face" epidemic down in Tallahassee. And only 20 have been reported. Imagine how many it actually is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Braxton Miller official to H-back/WR. His shoulder injury just wont get better. Labrum's continue to be the worst possible injury to the arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) Braxton Miller official to H-back/WR. His shoulder injury just wont get better. Labrum's continue to be the worst possible injury to the arm. That's a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 10:20 PM) That's a shame. Yeah, but scouts have said thats his future, especially with the shoulder. 6'2" 215 with his shake would be pretty great if he proves he has the hands. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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