2015-16 NCAA Football Thread

[Harry Chappas]

So you are saying he should declare or transfer right now instead of waiting one game until he can play again?

 

The whole punishment is kind of pointless.

 

He could do both of those things though couldn't he?

Edited November 2, 2015 by Harry Chappas

[Kyyle23]

Yes, the travesty was how the refs were able to get Duke the lead on the final drive. Also the penalties they called on Miami throughout. Almost as if they were looking for a reason to throw the flag before each snap.

 

i have no doubt they were terrible for the entire game

[RockRaines]

The whole punishment is kind of pointless.

 

He could both of those things though couldn't he?

but, why? He's not getting drafted in the NFL and he's most likely playing again in one week or two as well as starting the next season or two.

[Harry Chappas]

but, why? He's not getting drafted in the NFL and he's most likely playing again in one week or two as well as starting the next season or two.

 

I am sure he will not but I was curious if he could do that.

 

 

 

[cabiness42]

i have no doubt they were terrible for the entire game

 

So the refs threw a bunch of flags to help Duke score the go-ahead touchdown, and then ignored four things on the kickoff return to help Miami score the winning touchdown, which got the over there.

 

Hmmm . . . .

[RockRaines]

I am sure he will not but I was curious if he could do that.

Sitting out the rest of the season and either not getting drafted or transferring would be so much worse than taking your lumps and moving on.

[fathom]

So the refs threw a bunch of flags to help Duke score the go-ahead touchdown, and then ignored four things on the kickoff return to help Miami score the winning touchdown, which got the over there.

 

Hmmm . . . .

 

I hate conspiracies like this, as they would be the worst "fixers" ever if they waited until there was a miracle 8 lateral play with no time left to ensure the over was hit.

[Dick Allen]

Checking, I believe its the room and board, food stipend for the summer which is during the term.

 

Oh and they all attend summer school, its the only way to make up the credits to graduate on time. These guys dont take 22 hours during the season.

 

unrelated: I took summer classes every year, it was my favorite time of the year.

They also take summer school so they can work out. It's still a harsh penalty, but not nearly like losing it for a regular term. I am pretty sure if you aren't enrolled in summer school, you can't participate in the supervised work outs.

[cabiness42]

First selection committee rankings released tonight. What I think their rankings will be (not my rankings):

 

1 LSU

2 Clemson

3 Ohio State

4 Alabama

5 TCU

6 Baylor

7 Michigan State

8 Florida

9 Iowa

10 Stanford

11 Notre Dame

12 Oklahoma State

[RockRaines]

I love how they have to come out with rankings this early since they literally mean nothing.

[soxfan49]

Clemson

LSU

Ohio State

Alabama

 

ND

Baylor

[Chisoxfn]

Crazy that a 1 loss Bama team ranks over some undefeated power conference teams. I do think Bama is playing like one of the best 4 teams in the country, so in many cases, I actually think they got it right, but hard to do that when you have a field of 4. If the field was 8, I have an easier time giving it to the better team with a loss vs. a power conference team without a loss.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Notre Dames resume is not good at all. No idea how they're that high, but probably won't be for long.

[OmarComing25]

Crazy that a 1 loss Bama team ranks over some undefeated power conference teams. I do think Bama is playing like one of the best 4 teams in the country, so in many cases, I actually think they got it right, but hard to do that when you have a field of 4. If the field was 8, I have an easier time giving it to the better team with a loss vs. a power conference team without a loss.

#3 SOS. The undefeated Big 12 teams haven't played anyone besides Texas Tech yet and Michigan State has looked pretty poor in a lot of their wins. I like that the committee takes into account strength of schedule and how teams look in their wins instead of just overall record, otherwise everyone would just schedule cupcakes. People are too focused on just top 25 teams as well. Hypothetically, a team that beat the #31, #29, and #27 teams has a better resume than the team that beat the #94, #51, and #17 teams.

 

Notre Dames resume is not good at all. No idea how they're that high, but probably won't be for long.

#14 SOS and lost to the #1 ranked team by two points on the road, how is that a bad resume? They might not necessarily deserve to be #5 but it's really not that egregious, maybe a few spots too high.

Edited November 4, 2015 by OmarComing25

[LittleHurt05]

I know it doesn't matter but it sucks for non -BCS teams that Memphis is #13. Ole Miss is a much better win than many teams above them.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

#14 SOS and lost to the #1 ranked team by two points on the road, how is that a bad resume?

 

Because Notre Dame.

[Buehrle>Wood]

#3 SOS. The undefeated Big 12 teams haven't played anyone besides Texas Tech yet and Michigan State has looked pretty poor in a lot of their wins. I like that the committee takes into account strength of schedule and how teams look in their wins instead of just overall record, otherwise everyone would just schedule cupcakes. People are too focused on just top 25 teams as well. Hypothetically, a team that beat the #31, #29, and #27 teams has a better resume than the team that beat the #94, #51, and #17 teams.

 

 

#14 SOS and lost to the #1 ranked team by two points on the road, how is that a bad resume? They might not necessarily deserve to be #5 but it's really not that egregious, maybe a few spots too high.

Who gives a s*** who you lose to? They still don't have good wins.

 

[OmarComing25]

Who gives a s*** who you lose to? They still don't have good wins.

So all losses are the same? Losing a close game to a top team on the road is better than beating some cupcake like Lamar or whomever. It's not that black and white. It should matter, otherwise why not just schedule FCS teams and s***ty G5 teams every year? Their wins are comparable to those of the teams below them.

Edited November 4, 2015 by OmarComing25

[fathom]

Florida should be highest ranked one loss team. Oh well, it will all get shaken up depending on whether or not Baylor/TCU run the B12 gauntlet

[Buehrle>Wood]

So all losses are the same? Losing a close game to a top team on the road is better than beating some cupcake like Lamar or whomever. It's not that black and white. It should matter, otherwise why not just schedule FCS teams and s***ty G5 teams every year? Their wins are comparable to those of the teams below them.

Who you beat should far, far, far outweigh who you lose to, so yes. The selection committee actually came out and said this last year which is why Ohio State ended up in the playoff over TCU and Baylor. Otherwise you reward teams for "quality losses" which is really dumb. Not sure where you're going with the scheduling fcs team thing. That'd be the opposite of what I'm saying. Reward teams for who they have beaten. Scheduling fcs teams certainly would not accomplish that.

[OmarComing25]

Who you beat should far, far, far outweigh who you lose to, so yes. The selection committee actually came out and said this last year which is why Ohio State ended up in the playoff over TCU and Baylor. Otherwise you reward teams for "quality losses" which is really dumb. Not sure where you're going with the scheduling fcs team thing. That'd be the opposite of what I'm saying. Reward teams for who they have beaten. Scheduling fcs teams certainly would not accomplish that.

Because if we're not going to treat all wins as the same, then it should follow we shouldn't treat all losses the same either. I'm saying that I think a team that loses a close game to a top team deserves some credit, it shouldn't be treated the same as if they were blown out by a decent team, and I'll go as far to say that it's much more impressive than beating some cupcake. I'll give Michigan a lot more credit for losing on the last play to MSU than I'll give Baylor credit for beating Rice. That doesn't mean that I think a team with 5 close losses to top teams deserves playoff consideration, but a tough loss should be weighed more favorably than some wins.

[Buehrle>Wood]

Well I think everyone will disagree with you. Still also ignoring the point. No one cares about wins over Rice just as nobody should care losing to the number 1 team. What people should care about is the quality teams you've beaten.

 

I may disagree with saying USC and Navy are great wins but it's way, way more compelling of an argument to me than "But we played a team close!" I'd at least go down that right if I were a notre dame fan.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Buehrle>Wood

[OmarComing25]

Well I think everyone will disagree with you. Still also ignoring the point. No one cares about wins over Rice just as nobody should care losing to the number 1 team. What people should care about is the quality teams you've beaten.

Clearly the playoff committee doesn't disagree. And about your point, what if a team has 4 losses but has 7 top ten wins? They would have by far the best quality of wins, but they'd have no chance at the playoff. Clearly it does matter. What if two teams both have one loss, but team A lost by 1 in overtime on the road to the #1 ranked team, and team B lost by 25 to an unranked foe at home? Team B has beaten 3 top 25 teams, while Team A has defeated 2. Who is more deserving in that scenario?

 

Also, I did address the wins, I said ND was 7-1 against the 14th SOS. But it will sort itself out anyway. If Baylor/TCU/Ok State/MSU all win out, their resume will be better than ND's. Not sure about Bama though.

Edited November 4, 2015 by OmarComing25

[BigHurt3515]

Crazy that a 1 loss Bama team ranks over some undefeated power conference teams. I do think Bama is playing like one of the best 4 teams in the country, so in many cases, I actually think they got it right, but hard to do that when you have a field of 4. If the field was 8, I have an easier time giving it to the better team with a loss vs. a power conference team without a loss.

 

Didn't look that great against Tennessee.

[whitesoxfan99]

Do coaches not understand basic math? Northern Illinois just scored a TD that put them up 4 with 1:59 to go in the game. Rather than go for 2 put them up 6 and require Toledo to make the extra point to win they instead kick the extra point. Now obviously it is unlikely that if Toledo gets a TD they miss the extra point but it does happen so why not make them kick it.