LittleHurt05 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:04 PM) Chess match didnt work last year, they s*** the bed come bowl season. How do you figure? They had the #1 team in the rankings, even ahead of an undefeated team. I'd say the chess match worked again. The fact that Alabama couldn't tackle Ezekiel Elliot has nothing to do with the SEC working the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:13 PM) How do you figure? They had the #1 team in the rankings, even ahead of an undefeated team. I'd say the chess match worked again. The fact that Alabama couldn't tackle Ezekiel Elliot has nothing to do with the SEC working the system. Im specifically referring to the entire conference's bowl performance. Their end of the season "rest" game didnt help much at all. They s*** the bed as a conference collectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 So does this mean you should bet the house on TCU? For the record, I really like TCU and ND to cover this week 10 points is a big ask for ND with a new QB and a very questionable defense. I hope you're right though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) Im specifically referring to the entire conference's bowl performance. Their end of the season "rest" game didnt help much at all. They s*** the bed as a conference collectively. Nobody cares about bowl games outside of the championship. And the "rest" game has nothing to do with prepping for bowl season. It's about putting a tough conference game early in the season so that if you lose, voters forget about it. That's why you play Direction U in November instead of September, to try and avoid a late loss. edit: Also, it's about resting up for your rivalry/conf. championship game, not the bowl season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Chess match didnt work last year, they s*** the bed come bowl season. ND had been playing so bad, I didn't even take the afternoon off to watch their bowl game vs LSU. I thought the mighty SEC team would crush ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:18 PM) Nobody cares about bowl games outside of the championship. And the "rest" game has nothing to do with prepping for bowl season. It's about putting a tough conference game early in the season so that if you lose, voters forget about it. That's why you play Direction U in November instead of September, to try and avoid a late loss. LOL, everybody cares about the bowl games when your teams and conference are winning them. Its literally the measuring stick that ESPN and other pundits use every season to bash or praise each conference. Losing a conference game early can put you out of the CCG which is something voters definitely care about. Big OOC early games are something that matters MUCH less. Baylor thinks so little of them they only have one in the next several seasons and its Duke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) Im specifically referring to the entire conference's bowl performance. Their end of the season "rest" game didnt help much at all. They s*** the bed as a conference collectively. 7-5 as a conference, SEC East ("the worst division in football") 5-0. That's the "bad bowl season" for SEC. Bowls are stupid indicators of conference strength anyways. Does that prove SEC East > West? No, but for people who need selective back-patting, they'll use it when it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) 7-5 as a conference, SEC East ("the worst division in football") 5-0. That's the "bad bowl season" for SEC. Bowls are stupid indicators of conference strength anyways. Does that prove SEC East > West? No, but for people who need selective back-patting, they'll use it when it helps. Well yeah, any division with Indiana as the champion pretty much sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:22 PM) LOL, everybody cares about the bowl games when your teams and conference are winning them. Its literally the measuring stick that ESPN and other pundits use every season to bash or praise each conference. Losing a conference game early can put you out of the CCG which is something voters definitely care about. Big OOC early games are something that matters MUCH less. Baylor thinks so little of them they only have one in the next several seasons and its Duke. Well, ESPN sucks so my point stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Which, btw, was an example of an OOC home and home. As a fan of a team, I'd never advocate a big OOC game early in the season. There is no preseason for college football. I respect Oregon and LSU for that series, but imo it was stupid. You put a blackeye on your season when you have had no chance to see who your best players are. "Cooking the books" muah. Apparently "direction u" is so much worse than having Illinois on the schedule, "north texas". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:26 PM) Which, btw, was an example of an OOC home and home. As a fan of a team, I'd never advocate a big OOC game early in the season. There is no preseason for college football. I respect Oregon and LSU for that series, but imo it was stupid. You put a blackeye on your season when you have had no chance to see who your best players are. "Cooking the books" muah. Apparently "direction u" is so much worse than having Illinois on the schedule, "north texas". Conferences without championship games are hurt much more by early season losses and bad schedules than ones that have that title game built in. Bama could lose to Wisconsin (not likely) run the table and still get in the playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:31 PM) Conferences without championship games are hurt much more by early season losses and bad schedules than ones that have that title game built in. Bama could lose to Wisconsin (not likely) run the table and still get in the playoff. But isn't this what bowl games are for, anyways? I would not want to compromise a season by playing a game too early. Very happy Missouri is playing SEMO on Saturday, with 8 true frosh on our 2-deep. This team on saturday will be nowhere near the team that plays in October, yet in people's heads they hold it as equal. Screw that, get a few games to get ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:33 PM) But isn't this what bowl games are for, anyways? I would not want to compromise a season by playing a game too early. Very happy Missouri is playing SEMO on Saturday, with 8 true frosh on our 2-deep. This team on saturday will be nowhere near the team that plays in October, yet in people's heads they hold it as equal. Screw that, get a few games to get ready. Its definitely less stressful for fans. Its a difference of opinion with all sorts of angles on what is best to make the playoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If missouri makes the playoff in my lifetime I'm going to guess it's within the next 4 years. Drew Lock looks like the best QB we've ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) Well yeah, any division with Indiana as the champion pretty much sucks Hey now, no reason to pick on the little guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Tough first game for Harbaugh. Not expecting much this season anyway but we'll see. At least this season will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:40 AM) Tough first game for Harbaugh. Not expecting much this season anyway but we'll see. At least this season will be interesting. Yeah, that's a tough road game, Utah has had their share of solid wins at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 09:00 AM) Yeah, that's a tough road game, Utah has had their share of solid wins at home And Michigan really needed to finally be coached up after a few years of nothing. I expect and hope for a Utah win, but regardless its good to have football back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I'm gonna have to wait two years for a good Michigan offense. Ugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 11:44 AM) ND moves their neutral site games around the country though, on top of playing home-and-home series with teams all over the country. The SEC teams ALWAYS play their non-conference games at or close to home. All the other conferences are willing to venture outside their home territory at least some of the time. Go pull up the SEC schedules for the last five years and I doubt you can find more than a half dozen games played outside the south. That's pretty much true about the SEC, but Tennessee is the exception. We've never been afraid of going all over the country for games. In the last 12 years, we've had home-and-home series with Notre Dame, Cal, UCLA, Oregon, and Oklahoma. We're going away from that trend over the next few years, but we play neutral site games against Virginia Tech at Bristol Motor Speedway in 2016, Georgia Tech at the Georgia Dome in 2017, and West Virginia in Charlotte in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) I'm gonna have to wait two years for a good Michigan offense. Ugh Gotta wait for Peters id think. The QB stable is bare and the RB are in the same state. Two years is about right. Defense will keep them in games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 10:59 PM) Gotta wait for Peters id think. The QB stable is bare and the RB are in the same state. Two years is about right. Defense will keep them in games. Pretty much. Peters may start next year. He'll be better than anyone else we'll have unless Morris shows something. I like Ty Isaac just because I covered him in high school and he was so dominate. Smith has no vision. Could've picked up a couple of 4th quarter 1st downs last night but didn't see openings. Peppers, Butt, and Darboh looked good last night, but Rudock. Ugh. Can see why my Iowa friends laughed when he transferred. That pick 6 was brutal. I saw it coming as he started to throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 06:27 AM) Pretty much. Peters may start next year. He'll be better than anyone else we'll have unless Morris shows something. I like Ty Isaac just because I covered him in high school and he was so dominate. Smith has no vision. Could've picked up a couple of 4th quarter 1st downs last night but didn't see openings. Peppers, Butt, and Darboh looked good last night, but Rudock. Ugh. Can see why my Iowa friends laughed when he transferred. That pick 6 was brutal. I saw it coming as he started to throw. Isaac is too slow for this level of football, I just don't see it in him. He does have better vision than Smith. Morris is going to transfer IMO, he's so bad he couldn't even be put in last night after Ruddock s*** the bed. Morris has never produced at any level so it's not a shock or a big loss. I assume Harbaugh will start playing his recruits immediately next season. That defense isn't going to get run on much but I think they will get torched against the throwing teams a few times. They are plenty good to steal games when the O isn't producing. Edited September 4, 2015 by RockRaines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevo880 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 07:00 AM) Isaac is too slow for this level of football, I just don't see it in him. He does have better vision than Smith. Morris is going to transfer IMO, he's so bad he couldn't even be put in last night after Ruddock s*** the bed. Morris has never produced at any level so it's not a shock or a big loss. I assume Harbaugh will start playing his recruits immediately next season. That defense isn't going to get run on much but I think they will get torched against the throwing teams a few times. They are plenty good to steal games when the O isn't producing. It was nice to see Peppers consistently involved. He looked very good at stuffing the run and is very good at getting around blockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 Illini went from game on BTN Friday, too no TV for Saturday's game now. A storm cloud really is following the Illini right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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