southsider2k5 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Comcast SportsNet @CSNChicago 2h2 hours ago .@jimcallisMLB: Carlos Rodon's pure stuff right up there with Chris Sale: http://bit.ly/1LSiPgn #WhiteSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I have to agree with Callis. Both have mid 90's fastballs, both have devastating sliders, the only differences are Sale's change up and command are better. No doubt in my mind Rodon will improve on both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Are there 47 of them? Because that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 fap fap fap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I am curious to see if Rodon is a hardass like Sale. If he has the same type of edgy competitiveness to him that will be pretty awesome to see the two feed off of one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 12:21 PM) I am curious to see if Rodon is a hardass like Sale. If he has the same type of edgy competitiveness to him that will be pretty awesome to see the two feed off of one another. According to stuff I've read, he's supposed to be a pretty fierce/intense competitor when he's on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Ronon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) I am curious to see if Rodon is a hardass like Sale. If he has the same type of edgy competitiveness to him that will be pretty awesome to see the two feed off of one another. QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 02:15 PM) I think he might be even more of a visual competitor than Sale. Where Sale gets pumped up and mad at himself for the most part, Rodon does that and has had incidents where he'd freak out if NC State's manager. Brett Austin has also told stories of Rodon growling on the mound. Sometimes I fear Sale will develop into Jake Peavy, to the point where his physical loss of control actually becomes a detriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) I don't know if that ever was a detriment to Peavy. Obviously Peavy was more expressive on a regular basis but I don't know how you'd be able to quantify any effect that had. Sale on the other hand had his moments where he'd blow up but they were just more memorable than Peavy's day-to-day antics. I remember Sale going ape on the water cooler against the Rangers in August 2013, I remember him freaking out in Detroit last year and then just throwing big fists pumps after big outs. Either way, I don't understand your parallel here or how Peavy's attitude became in issue. Seems like more a comparison of convenience than anything. I am biased because I played with a lot fire and like watching animated guys. I wouldn't have minded Peavy's attitude at all if he'd been able to back up his talk. He talked a huge game, seemed like he'd never shut up, and then didn't do that much when given the ball. I got sick of reading quotes about how he'd be better and they'd be a strong team because Peavy wouldn't be contributing. JFP became "Just f***ing Pitch" with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) I wouldn't have minded Peavy's attitude at all if he'd been able to back up his talk. He talked a huge game, seemed like he'd never shut up, and then didn't do that much when given the ball. I got sick of reading quotes about how he'd be better and they'd be a strong team because Peavy wouldn't be contributing. JFP became "Just f***ing Pitch" with that. This is such a good post, I am gonna have to steal it as my sig. Sums up my thoughts on JFP to a T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:17 PM) Ronon! I'm glad someone got my joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) I'm glad someone got my joke. Yeah, hopefully he's a Bad Ass Shogun on the mound... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 02:25 PM) I don't know if that ever was a detriment to Peavy. Obviously Peavy was more expressive on a regular basis but I don't know how you'd be able to quantify any effect that had. Sale on the other hand had his moments where he'd blow up but they were just more memorable than Peavy's day-to-day antics. I remember Sale going ape on the water cooler against the Rangers in August 2013, I remember him freaking out in Detroit last year and then just throwing big fists pumps after big outs. Either way, I don't understand your parallel here or how Peavy's attitude became in issue. Seems like more a comparison of convenience than anything. I am biased because I played with a lot fire and like watching animated guys. Like Balta said, it was fine when he was good, but eventually, as he became more and more of a cartoon haracter, it started to make him pitch hurt leading to disastrous results and went so far as to even give up a huge pennant race homerun after telling the batter he was going to throw a fastball. If you watch him now, you can hear him screaming more clearly than ever, and then you look at his numbers and realize he's just declining more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:25 PM) I don't know if that ever was a detriment to Peavy. Obviously Peavy was more expressive on a regular basis but I don't know how you'd be able to quantify any effect that had. Sale on the other hand had his moments where he'd blow up but they were just more memorable than Peavy's day-to-day antics. I remember Sale going ape on the water cooler against the Rangers in August 2013, I remember him freaking out in Detroit last year and then just throwing big fists pumps after big outs. Either way, I don't understand your parallel here or how Peavy's attitude became in issue. Seems like more a comparison of convenience than anything. I am biased because I played with a lot fire and like watching animated guys. Welcome Daenerys Targaryen to SoxTalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) I wouldn't have minded Peavy's attitude at all if he'd been able to back up his talk. He talked a huge game, seemed like he'd never shut up, and then didn't do that much when given the ball. I got sick of reading quotes about how he'd be better and they'd be a strong team because Peavy wouldn't be contributing. JFP became "Just f***ing Pitch" with that. Like that scene from Indiana Jones when that swordsman is going through all those machinations and showing off...and Indy just shoots him and shrugs. Go away. Couldn't beat DET to save your life. But thanks for Garcia, Montas and Rondon. In the end, I'm sure his teammates with Boston and SF felt nearly the same way the past two off-seasons. Granted, he was important to the Giants in the regular season last year and gave them a huge lift down the stretch, but MEHHHH ever since the injuries and the FB velocity went down to 89-91. And he did sign a "very fair" (I'm not going to say bargain) make good contract with the Sox that made the trade possible. Edited February 6, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) Eminor3 was talking about on field antics in comparison to Sale, or at least I thought, and Balta switched over to media relations. Regardless, I don't think him playing with fire was a detriment. Maybe Peavy showed up one of his defenders a few different times but it's not that big of an expense considering the energy he brought on a regular basis. In the media, Sale and Peavy are entirely different. Based on what we've seen so far, Sale shows great composure with the media. When I said "like Balta said," I was referring to just the phrase where he said that it was all fine when he was pitching well, not the rest of his post. Sorry for being confusing. Also, I didn't mind Peavy's intensity much at all when he was here, but I think it's gotten more out of control in the starts I've watched form him the past two years with BOS and SFG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 05:51 PM) Eminor3 was talking about on field antics in comparison to Sale, or at least I thought, and Balta switched over to media relations. Regardless, I don't think him playing with fire was a detriment. Maybe Peavy showed up one of his defenders a few different times but it's not that big of an expense considering the energy he brought on a regular basis. In the media, Sale and Peavy are entirely different. Based on what we've seen so far, Sale shows great composure with the media. I'd say the same thing about Peavy's "on field" antics. Be pissed at yourself when you do something wrong and pumped up when it goes well. I'm ok with that, as long as you're living up to it. If you're giving up a 5 run innign every game you can't be pissed every time. Sale losing control and going after VMart is a bit much, i can see how that was over the top. Problem with Peavy? Was pretty much that all the time and never backed it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 6, 2015 -> 01:18 PM) Sometimes I fear Sale will develop into Jake Peavy, to the point where his physical loss of control actually becomes a detriment. This was the first season that I felt Chris lost a little bit on his location when he tried to pump it up there 96-98. It seemed to me that he is at his best when he is hitting spots at 93-94 and getting nasty movement. Sure, it's awesome to blow people away, but if youre making mistakes over the inside half, youre going to get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Not Carlos Rodon but positives on Spencer Adams Dan Hayes @CSNHayes · 2h 2 hours ago Don't overlook #WhiteSox prospect Spencer Adams. Athletic RHP potentially has three plus-pitches says @jimcallisMLB. http://bit.ly/192i7y1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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