Buehrle>Wood Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12334819 Most Improved Team- Sox #1 in AL Best Free Agent Signing- Laroche #4 in MLB Best Trades- Shark trade #1 in MLB Best Minor League Free Agent- Geovany Soto #1 Sort of surprised at how high Laroche is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12334819 Most Improved Team- Sox #1 in AL Best Free Agent Signing- Laroche #4 in MLB Best Trades- Shark trade #1 in MLB Best Minor League Free Agent- Geovany Soto #1 Sort of surprised at how high Laroche is. Will there be a trophy presentation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) Will there be a trophy presentation? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12334819 Most Improved Team- Sox #1 in AL Best Free Agent Signing- Laroche #4 in MLB Best Trades- Shark trade #1 in MLB Best Minor League Free Agent- Geovany Soto #1 Sort of surprised at how high Laroche is. Was going to say exactly that. Even more surprised at the Samardzija trade, given he has only one year of control. Also, LMAO at Gordon Beckham being called a "super utility man." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) Will there be a trophy presentation? Right after the attendance trophy, but before the best prospects trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Right after the attendance trophy, but before the best prospects trophy. I would have thought they would save the attendance trophy for last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewssox79 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Right after the attendance trophy, but before the best prospects trophy. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59th street Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 03:05 PM) Right after the attendance trophy, but before the best prospects trophy. Bravo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12334819 Most Improved Team- Sox #1 in AL Best Free Agent Signing- Laroche #4 in MLB Best Trades- Shark trade #1 in MLB Best Minor League Free Agent- Geovany Soto #1 Sort of surprised at how high Laroche is. So Gordon Beckham is now a "super utility man"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) FanGraphs (Dave Cameron) does not feature the Sox in any of their top ten transactions or their honorable mentions. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-best-tr...015-off-season/ Personally I loved the Samardzija and LaRoche moves. I am big fan of Brandon McCarthy but signing him to a four year deal wouldn't strike me as a top ten move in any season. and Wade Miley? really? He factored team situation into it heavily (mentioned in comments that it was the entire reason that the Victor Martinez deal wasn't on the WORST list), so I'm not surprised that the Sox didn't make his list, since he's been one that thinks the Sox are just fringe contenders this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) So Gordon Beckham is now a "super utility man"? I thought that too, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) He factored team situation into it heavily (mentioned in comments that it was the entire reason that the Victor Martinez deal wasn't on the WORST list), so I'm not surprised that the Sox didn't make his list, since he's been one that thinks the Sox are just fringe contenders this year. I was surprised to see him list Upton to the Padres as one of his best but said nothing of the Samardzija trade. Now that the dust has settled and has been cleaned with Pledge, that really seems like the best trade of the offseason. I'm biased, but it really seems like the Sox gave up low ceiling talent for a strong #2-3 and a high ceiling relief prospect. Worst case scenario, the Sox are going to get another draft pick for Samardizja, and that was part of his justification for giving the Padres as good of a grade as they did on that trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett05 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Buster Olney was on ESPN 1000 yesterday and said LaRoche was the best FA signing this offseason. He liked our offseason as #2 behind the Padres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm surprised the Melky Cabrera deal has gotten no love. IMO, it's one of the few non-Cuban deals that is likely to provide surplus value over the life of the contract. Plus by all accounts he's a great clubhouse guy. I personally think it was a better signing than the LaRoche deal, which seems to be getting a lot of praise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 06:39 AM) I'm surprised the Melky Cabrera deal has gotten no love. IMO, it's one of the few non-Cuban deals that is likely to provide surplus value over the life of the contract. Plus by all accounts he's a great clubhouse guy. I personally think it was a better signing than the LaRoche deal, which seems to be getting a lot of praise. Cabrera's past hangs over him, and rightfully so. If he didn't have that history, he would have gotten a deal similar to Panda this year, maybe more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 09:32 AM) Cabrera's past hangs over him, and rightfully so. If he didn't have that history, he would have gotten a deal similar to Panda this year, maybe more. Panda ate his deal this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 04:47 PM) I was surprised to see him list Upton to the Padres as one of his best but said nothing of the Samardzija trade. Now that the dust has settled and has been cleaned with Pledge, that really seems like the best trade of the offseason. I'm biased, but it really seems like the Sox gave up low ceiling talent for a strong #2-3 and a high ceiling relief prospect. Worst case scenario, the Sox are going to get another draft pick for Samardizja, and that was part of his justification for giving the Padres as good of a grade as they did on that trade. Got our answer: Comment From witesoxfan Given that part of the reason for ranking the Upton trade so highly was that the compensation pick they'll get if/when they lose Upton will possibly be worth more than they gave up, why wasn't the Samardzija trade considered the same? Dave Cameron The White Sox gave up more. I certainly don't think so, but to each his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 11:05 AM) Panda ate his deal this offseason. Seriously though, dude looks huge now...more so than any year with the Giants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 12:10 PM) Wow. I'd take that Braves package over the one we sent any day of the week. Fried is far and away the best player in either trade. I think Samardzija is more valuable than Upton too, plus the Sox got Michael Ynoa. Generally, I think we underrate Josh Phegley and the thought around the industry may be that his ultimate ceiling is that of an averagish catcher in the majors, while Semien's upside is that of an above average player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) I think Samardzija is more valuable than Upton too, plus the Sox got Michael Ynoa. Generally, I think we underrate Josh Phegley and the thought around the industry may be that his ultimate ceiling is that of an averagish catcher in the majors, while Semien's upside is that of an above average player. Phegley has a really long swing. If someone could shorten it, he could be a major league catcher... well as a hitter. Defensively? Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Feb 17, 2015 -> 09:56 PM) http://m.espn.go.com/mlb/story?storyId=12334819 Most Improved Team- Sox #1 in AL Best Free Agent Signing- Laroche #4 in MLB Best Trades- Shark trade #1 in MLB Best Minor League Free Agent- Geovany Soto #1 Sort of surprised at how high Laroche is. and as of today, 3-4-15 mlb rumors had this poll going out Poll: Wisest $60MM To $70MM Offseason Spend and none from the current batch of the sox are even in the listings. worst yet, the sox is not even mention. what kind of BS is this. what there is no sox love out there. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 11:32 AM) Cabrera's past hangs over him, and rightfully so. If he didn't have that history, he would have gotten a deal similar to Panda this year, maybe more. I like that comparison. Pablo's clearly the better player at a more premium position but his deal has zero upside. At best he's worth his contract. Personally I think there's a fat chance of that happening. Melky only needs to about 5 war in his contract to make it worth it for the Sox. Melky is a good player he's not the same guy he was in NY at the dish anymore. Maybeyou can say that's due to PEDs but I saw the guy make one of the more bone headed mental gaffes a ballplayer will ever make (missed a ball tipping his cap to the intros at yankee stadium about 20 feet in front of us back in 2009) and it's clear he had a lot of mental growing up to do on and off the field . When you break into the Bronx at 20, a full time starter at 21, it can go to your head. Something clicked with the guy a few years ago and I think he's going to produce about 6 WAR in three years. A lot depends on his defense but in the smallish LF of the Cell I can't imagine he'll have much trouble. PEDs or not, the guy keeps himself in great shape and at 29 hard to imagine he'll decline too much athletically in three years. Injury could happen, and he does have some history there (the tumor thing wtf) so as with anything hope for health. Edited March 5, 2015 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
credezcrew24 Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 4, 2015 -> 06:51 PM) and as of today, 3-4-15 mlb rumors had this poll going out Poll: Wisest $60MM To $70MM Offseason Spend and none from the current batch of the sox are even in the listings. worst yet, the sox is not even mention. what kind of BS is this. what there is no sox love out there. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/ That poll is only for the teams that spent a total of $60MM to $70MM on free agents this offseason. The White Sox spent well over that which is why they are not mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 QUOTE (credezcrew24 @ Mar 5, 2015 -> 08:08 AM) That poll is only for the teams that spent a total of $60MM to $70MM on free agents this offseason. The White Sox spent well over that which is why they are not mentioned. while you may be correct, which i didn't know, they should have done the poll on teams who spent over 60 mil. i think it is a stupid poll, next the new poll will be those teams who spent less than 1 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 18, 2015 -> 12:22 PM) I think Samardzija is more valuable than Upton too, plus the Sox got Michael Ynoa. Generally, I think we underrate Josh Phegley and the thought around the industry may be that his ultimate ceiling is that of an averagish catcher in the majors, while Semien's upside is that of an above average player. I can't see Phegley being a useful MLB player. His defensive shortcomings were bad. He also seemed to be very soft mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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