shipps Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 23, 2015 -> 01:15 PM) Brad Biggs @BradBiggs 15h15 hours ago #Bears had to send Jeremiah Ratliff away from Halas Hall 3 times yesterday from @danwiederer & @Rich_Campbell http://trib.in/1OV4UrW View summary 25 retweets 13 favorites I know this story has pretty much faded away but I am still really interested of what all went down. I want to know how Pace found himself in a situation like this and how/why did he react. That will give some insight about Pace who obviously IS going to be here for the future. Did Pace mishandle something that blew up in into a huge ordeal? We dont know jacks*** about what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 09:54 AM) I know this story has pretty much faded away but I am still really interested of what all went down. I want to know how Pace found himself in a situation like this and how/why did he react. That will give some insight about Pace who obviously IS going to be here for the future. Did Pace mishandle something that blew up in into a huge ordeal? We dont know jacks*** about what happened. It appears that Ratfliff showed up to camp on drugs (or drunk..not sure which) and the Bears had a family matter pick him up to take him home and then he blew up and came multiple times and at that point Pace cut him (wasn't putting up with it). Pace put himself in the middle after the incidents. This wasn't Ratliff being all fine and Pace said something to him and Ratliff blew up. Bears don't want to publicly state that as they try to be quiet about their business and don't blast players in the open (not this regime at least). They just turn you out and that is what Pace did. The beat writers are all commending him on it and they know more then they are reporting so I think if it was an issue about Pace, we'd know about it. Plus, Ratliff has a history of these incidents (with Dallas and Chicago). Its just with this new regime, you actually have to deal with the repercussions of that sort of incident (where as past Bears regimes let players get away with it and it didn't allow for a true winning culture to arise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 12:04 PM) It appears that Ratfliff showed up to camp on drugs (or drunk..not sure which) and the Bears had a family matter pick him up to take him home and then he blew up and came multiple times and at that point Pace cut him (wasn't putting up with it). Pace put himself in the middle after the incidents. This wasn't Ratliff being all fine and Pace said something to him and Ratliff blew up. Bears don't want to publicly state that as they try to be quiet about their business and don't blast players in the open (not this regime at least). They just turn you out and that is what Pace did. The beat writers are all commending him on it and they know more then they are reporting so I think if it was an issue about Pace, we'd know about it. Plus, Ratliff has a history of these incidents (with Dallas and Chicago). Its just with this new regime, you actually have to deal with the repercussions of that sort of incident (where as past Bears regimes let players get away with it and it didn't allow for a true winning culture to arise). The beat writers didnt even report that anything happened until the next day. It seems like they are trying to get into some good graces with a regime that is withholding a bunch of information from the get go of this season. So I don't really think any party that was there is going to give a real accurate story to the public of what happened. Its all fishy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 01:02 PM) The beat writers didnt even report that anything happened until the next day. It seems like they are trying to get into some good graces with a regime that is withholding a bunch of information from the get go of this season. So I don't really think any party that was there is going to give a real accurate story to the public of what happened. Its all fishy to me. The beat reporters have very little inside info so far. This regime is as a pretty tight circle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (shipps @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 01:02 PM) The beat writers didnt even report that anything happened until the next day. It seems like they are trying to get into some good graces with a regime that is withholding a bunch of information from the get go of this season. So I don't really think any party that was there is going to give a real accurate story to the public of what happened. Its all fishy to me. It is like this for all Chicago sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 @jkatzenstein: The Lions are firing offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi and offensive line coaches Jeremiah Washburn and Terry Heffernan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipps Posted October 26, 2015 Share Posted October 26, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 26, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) The beat reporters have very little inside info so far. This regime is as a pretty tight circle I thought that I heard the confrontation was out in the open for everyone to see though. Surely the guys on the beat could have had some more information just from hearing what they were saying in the confrontation. That is if its true they seen and heard that confrontation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2582867...dipping-problem I thought Trestman couldn't be any worse......WOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:31 AM) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2582867...dipping-problem I thought Trestman couldn't be any worse......WOW. What you may not know was that something similar happened last year with Ratliff and the Bears. It was a scary and bizarre moment. In the last week of the season, on a Friday, according to a player who witnessed the entire incident, Ratliff showed up to practice and was behaving belligerently toward players and coaches. The coaching regime, then led by Marc Trestman, would not allow him to practice. Ratliff went ballistic, this player said, and was asked to leave practice. He departed but later returned. Practice was stopped and most players went off to the side while a small group of players and coaches tried to calm Ratliff down and get him to leave. It didn't work initially. Ratliff destroyed the game clock on the practice field, smashing it and kicking it. Later, he shoved an assistant coach to the ground. While all of this went on, Trestman never intervened. He just stood off to the side and watched. And this is the most incredible part. The uber-enabling part. Not only was Ratliff never punished by Trestman...he was named one of the captains the next day. The entire locker room was incredulous. Trestman justified making Ratliff a captain by saying he brought intensity, but no player bought that. That move, the player said, led to Trestman officially losing the locker room. Trestman was fired soon after. You can't blame the new coaching staff if, fully aware of what happened with Ratliff last year, they just wanted to get him as far away from the team as possible. Yikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 08:35 AM) Yikes. Knowing Trestman, he was probably scared of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'd have been scared too, but I wonder why Bears didn't cut him this off-season (given what they did with Marshall, etc). I would have had to presume they were aware of the incident? Glad when it happened under the current regime watch, they handled it the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 06:35 AM) Yikes. I found the piece on Upshaw's widow very interesting. I commend her and I spit on her family. Never heard of that restaurant but I'll make sure to never eat at it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/st...511445869184742 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 I'm sure Ryan Pace had heard of that incident from last year. I would have cut him my first day as GM. Didn't Pace name Ratliff as one of the key members of this team at the beginning of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) I'm sure Ryan Pace had heard of that incident from last year. I would have cut him my first day as GM. Didn't Pace name Ratliff as one of the key members of this team at the beginning of the year? Fox and Fangio did in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) Fox and Fangio did in preseason. So we are no different than any other franchise, we hold onto bats*** crazy players because they are good at football. It's disappointing, especially since we're not in a competitive year I'd rather make the right choice and not the football choice. Ratliff most likely wasn't in the long term picture anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkBomber Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Oct 28, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) So we are no different than any other franchise, we hold onto bats*** crazy players because they are good at football. It's disappointing, especially since we're not in a competitive year I'd rather make the right choice and not the football choice. Ratliff most likely wasn't in the long term picture anyways. At least they got rid of McDonald and now Ratliff. Look at what the Cowboys are doing with Greg Hardy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Joseph Randle goes AWOL http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown...WQDBHNlYwNzYw-- word is Jerry Jones is trying to sign him to a 10 year deal and has made Randle a team captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 11:52 AM) Joseph Randle goes AWOL http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown...WQDBHNlYwNzYw-- word is Jerry Jones is trying to sign him to a 10 year deal and has made Randle a team captain Mark Tresman agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Tosh has 25k on Pats -3.5 first half tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 16-0 or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 29, 2015 -> 10:17 PM) 16-0 or no? Not likely, but it's hard to bet against the GOAT Quarterback with the GOAT coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Boogua @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:40 AM) Not likely, but it's hard to bet against the GOAT Quarterback with the GOAT coach. They're at Denver on Nov 29th. Think that is the best shot for a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 30, 2015 -> 08:46 AM) They're at Denver on Nov 29th. Think that is the best shot for a loss. A lot of people are looking at Denver the same way for Green Bay. I just dont know that Manning is gonna be able to find his arm to keep up with Brady and Rodgers, the Denver offense has really had troubles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Crazy how different the league looks this year. 2 years ago I thought this may be the best crop of qbs at once we've ever had. Now, with Brees, Manning, Romo out or playing like garbage, and QBs like Kaepernick RGIII busting and not many truly stepping up as elite aside from Luck, and suddenly this looks like 10 years ago. All of the offenses have been influenced by great QBs, I wonder how it changes if the talent doesn't turn around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) It probably depends on how some of the younger QB's in the league develop. Derek Carr Teddy Bridgewater Blake Bortles Jameis Winston Marcus Mariota Two or three of these guys need to take the next step. Edited October 30, 2015 by GoSox05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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