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QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 23, 2015 -> 08:06 PM)
Jets cut former 1st round pick Quinton Coples due to lack of playing time, particularly a new system. (he thrived in a 3-4 under Rex Ryan) Bears should be ALL OVER THIS. Only 25 years old.

 

Looks like Miami is going to pick him up. Who so happens to play the Jets this week.

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QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 12:36 PM)
He's going to get cut right? Moving him to 3rd string...why not just drop him entirely? Seems like at this point they are done with him. Or are they presuming they can get a pick back from someone else in the off-season?

 

Just for s***s and giggles I looked up the Browns first round drafts going back to Tim Couch. It is astounding how bad they have been, how many completely wasted picks, and Manziel looks like another

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 02:02 PM)
Just for s***s and giggles I looked up the Browns first round drafts going back to Tim Couch. It is astounding how bad they have been, how many completely wasted picks, and Manziel looks like another

 

You would think that its almost hard to mess up every pick even if you were trying to mess them up. Someone would have to pan out just by the odds.

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 01:05 PM)
Cutler's options tomorrow-

Matt Forte (?)

Zach Miller

Josh Bellamy

Marc Mariani

Deonte Thompson

Khari Lee

Jeremy Langford

Antone Smith

Marquess Wilson

Cameron Meredith

 

YIKES.

Is Jeffrey out as well?

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the way Alshon talked this week, he sure seems like he is playing

 

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 02:44 PM)
You would think that its almost hard to mess up every pick even if you were trying to mess them up. Someone would have to pan out just by the odds.

 

They have had one or two, but look at this clown show

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleve...und_draft_picks

 

1999 1 Tim Couch * QB Kentucky

2000 1 Courtney Brown * DE Penn State

2001 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida

2002 16 William Green RB Boston College [23]

2003 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame

2004 6 Kellen Winslow II TE Miami (Florida) [24]

2005 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan

2006 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State [25]

2007 3 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin [26]

2007 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame [27]

2008 — No Pick — — [27]

2009 21 Alex Mack C California [28]

2010 7 Joe Haden CB Florida

2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor

2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama

2012 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State

2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State

2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State

2014 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M

2015 12 Danny Shelton DT Washington

2015 19 Cameron Erving C Florida State

 

 

LOOK AT THAT LIST!

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:32 PM)
the way Alshon talked this week, he sure seems like he is playing

 

 

 

They have had one or two, but look at this clown show

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cleve...und_draft_picks

 

1999 1 Tim Couch * QB Kentucky

2000 1 Courtney Brown * DE Penn State

2001 3 Gerard Warren DT Florida

2002 16 William Green RB Boston College [23]

2003 21 Jeff Faine C Notre Dame

2004 6 Kellen Winslow II TE Miami (Florida) [24]

2005 3 Braylon Edwards WR Michigan

2006 13 Kamerion Wimbley LB Florida State [25]

2007 3 Joe Thomas OT Wisconsin [26]

2007 22 Brady Quinn QB Notre Dame [27]

2008 — No Pick — — [27]

2009 21 Alex Mack C California [28]

2010 7 Joe Haden CB Florida

2011 21 Phil Taylor DT Baylor

2012 3 Trent Richardson RB Alabama

2012 22 Brandon Weeden QB Oklahoma State

2013 6 Barkevious Mingo OLB Louisiana State

2014 8 Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State

2014 22 Johnny Manziel QB Texas A&M

2015 12 Danny Shelton DT Washington

2015 19 Cameron Erving C Florida State

 

 

LOOK AT THAT LIST!

1990 6 Mark Carrier Safety Southern California

1991 22 Stan Thomas Offensive tackle Texas

1992 22 Alonzo Spellman Defensive end Ohio State

1993 7 Curtis Conway Wide Receiver Southern California

1994 11 John Thierry Defensive end Alcorn State

1995 21 Rashaan Salaam Half Back Colorado

1996 13 Walt Harris Defensive back Mississippi State

1997 — No Pick — — [t]

1998 5 Curtis Enis Half Back Penn State

1999 12 Cade McNown Quarterback UCLA

2000 9 Brian Urlacher Linebacker/Safety New Mexico

2001 8 David Terrell Wide Receiver Michigan

2002 29 Marc Colombo Offensive tackle Boston College

2003 14 Michael Haynes Defensive end Penn State [v]

2003 22 Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida [v]

2004 14 Tommie Harris Defensive tackle Oklahoma

2005 4 Cedric Benson Half Back Texas

2006 No Pick [w]

2007 31 Greg Olsen Tight End Miami

2008 14 Chris Williams Offensive tackle Vanderbilt

2009 No Pick [x]

2010 No Pick [x]

2011 29 Gabe Carimi Offensive tackle Wisconsin

2012 19 Shea McClellin Defensive end Boise State

2013 20 Kyle Long Offensive tackle Oregon

2014 14 Kyle Fuller Cornerback Virginia Tech

2015 7 Kevin White Wide Receiver West Virginia

 

For the sake of a fun exercise, the Bears 1st round picks post 1990 were pretty mehhh too. Outside of Urlacher, and maybe Carrier and Tommy Harris, there aren't much else to show for (David Terrell. yuck...).

 

Ooops, forgot that Rexy did lead us to a SB, that counts for something, amIrite? :lol:

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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 03:24 PM)
Whoops, he's questionable. I don't think he plays though.

 

Prove me wrong, Alshon!

He ran his mouth this week about how disrespectful it was by GB for smacking them around last year, so he best play now.

 

QUOTE (shipps @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 02:44 PM)
You would think that its almost hard to mess up every pick even if you were trying to mess them up. Someone would have to pan out just by the odds.

Mack and Thomas are great players. Wimbley went onto have a good career albeit not in Cleveland

 

QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 04:19 PM)
1990 6 Mark Carrier Safety Southern California

1991 22 Stan Thomas Offensive tackle Texas

1992 22 Alonzo Spellman Defensive end Ohio State

1993 7 Curtis Conway Wide Receiver Southern California

1994 11 John Thierry Defensive end Alcorn State

1995 21 Rashaan Salaam Half Back Colorado

1996 13 Walt Harris Defensive back Mississippi State

1997 — No Pick — — [t]

1998 5 Curtis Enis Half Back Penn State

1999 12 Cade McNown Quarterback UCLA

2000 9 Brian Urlacher Linebacker/Safety New Mexico

2001 8 David Terrell Wide Receiver Michigan

2002 29 Marc Colombo Offensive tackle Boston College

2003 14 Michael Haynes Defensive end Penn State [v]

2003 22 Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida [v]

2004 14 Tommie Harris Defensive tackle Oklahoma

2005 4 Cedric Benson Half Back Texas

2006 No Pick [w]

2007 31 Greg Olsen Tight End Miami

2008 14 Chris Williams Offensive tackle Vanderbilt

2009 No Pick [x]

2010 No Pick [x]

2011 29 Gabe Carimi Offensive tackle Wisconsin

2012 19 Shea McClellin Defensive end Boise State

2013 20 Kyle Long Offensive tackle Oregon

2014 14 Kyle Fuller Cornerback Virginia Tech

2015 7 Kevin White Wide Receiver West Virginia

 

For the sake of a fun exercise, the Bears 1st round picks post 1990 were pretty mehhh too. Outside of Urlacher, and maybe Carrier and Tommy Harris, there aren't much else to show for (David Terrell. yuck...).

 

Ooops, forgot that Rexy did lead us to a SB, that counts for something, amIrite? :lol:

Fuller has been better lately, Long is 2/2 in Pro Bowls, McClellin has been decent and Olsen might be the 2nd best TE in football.

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QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Nov 25, 2015 -> 04:19 PM)
1990 6 Mark Carrier Safety Southern California

1991 22 Stan Thomas Offensive tackle Texas

1992 22 Alonzo Spellman Defensive end Ohio State

1993 7 Curtis Conway Wide Receiver Southern California

1994 11 John Thierry Defensive end Alcorn State

1995 21 Rashaan Salaam Half Back Colorado

1996 13 Walt Harris Defensive back Mississippi State

1997 — No Pick — — [t]

1998 5 Curtis Enis Half Back Penn State

1999 12 Cade McNown Quarterback UCLA

2000 9 Brian Urlacher Linebacker/Safety New Mexico

2001 8 David Terrell Wide Receiver Michigan

2002 29 Marc Colombo Offensive tackle Boston College

2003 14 Michael Haynes Defensive end Penn State [v]

2003 22 Rex Grossman Quarterback Florida [v]

2004 14 Tommie Harris Defensive tackle Oklahoma

2005 4 Cedric Benson Half Back Texas

2006 No Pick [w]

2007 31 Greg Olsen Tight End Miami

2008 14 Chris Williams Offensive tackle Vanderbilt

2009 No Pick [x]

2010 No Pick [x]

2011 29 Gabe Carimi Offensive tackle Wisconsin

2012 19 Shea McClellin Defensive end Boise State

2013 20 Kyle Long Offensive tackle Oregon

2014 14 Kyle Fuller Cornerback Virginia Tech

2015 7 Kevin White Wide Receiver West Virginia

 

For the sake of a fun exercise, the Bears 1st round picks post 1990 were pretty mehhh too. Outside of Urlacher, and maybe Carrier and Tommy Harris, there aren't much else to show for (David Terrell. yuck...).

 

Ooops, forgot that Rexy did lead us to a SB, that counts for something, amIrite? :lol:

 

This list looks like a Super Bowl contender next to the Browns. The Bears made the playoffs multiple times during this time period and had a lot of pro bowls in there, the Browns have two picks in the last 3 years that aren't even in the league right bow(Richardson and Weeden) and Manziel is hot on their heels

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Yeah, the Bears have some busts, like any organization, but there is no comparison to the awful Clevenamd picks.

 

I still wish David Terrell got to play with a QB that was decent outside Jim Miller.

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