RockRaines Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 09:56 AM) Well, that isn't what my google search of Stoops pulled out. He's in the top 10 on coacheshotseats.com rankings as well and even had some comments about how critical this upcoming season will be. If he doesn't take big steps forward, he's on his way out. Either way, what a loser hire that would be for Notre Dame. I wouldnt have him in my top 5 candidates for ND, there are plenty of better options. ND will always recruit well, you need someone who can actually coach them up and I'd start with the giant pool of successful coaches that were one time ND assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Wait, the Browns hired Jonah Hill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 10:57 AM) Wait, the Browns hired Jonah Hill? I actually really like this move. Paul DePodesta is a smart guy and isn't only analytics based. I could see Chip Kelly working there now actually..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 11:01 AM) I actually really like this move. Paul DePodesta is a smart guy and isn't only analytics based. I could see Chip Kelly working there now actually..... They have a lawyer and a baseball guy now running their football team. Such a Browns thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 11:03 AM) They have a lawyer and a baseball guy now running their football team. Such a Browns thing to do. and they plan on hiring a coach, THEN their GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago Much like I see no real way Alshon Jeffery doesn't stay a Bear in '16, I see virtually no chance Martellus Bennett is a Bear in '16. #Bears Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace called LT Charles Leno a "pleasant surprise". Also all but confirmed Long will stay at T. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago GM Ryan Pace speaking very highly of RB Matt Forte. Says he the type of player the #Bears want. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago Pace also says he does not feel like relationship between TE Martellus Bennett & the team has been "strained". Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago GM Ryan Pace echoing same sentiment I've been saying. #Bears unlikely to spend big on that one top FA. None likely to be available. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears continue to remain positive with impending FA LB Shea McClellin. Would be shocked if he isn't back. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace expects WR Kevin White to be "full speed" during offseason programs. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace "I'm excited about what we got going here." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago GM Ryan Pace confirming the #Bears will have to use FA more than usually for the first few years to get the talent they want. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace says he plans to build the offense around QB Jay Cutler. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace "We just need to keep adding more playmakers." Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears HC John Fox confirms he doesn't expect any changes w/ staff outside of Gase. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears GM Ryan Pace called Kyle Fuller an "ascending player". Happy with his progress as season went on. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 1h1 hour ago #Bears know Alshon Jeffery's talent level & overall ability but stressed today that health/durability is a part of the eval process. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 2h2 hours ago #Bears could have up to $70-75M in cap space. Expect them to spend on young/long-term players with good production high upside. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 1h1 hour ago Just to put things in perspective. #Bears will have about 2x as much cap space & 3 more picks than '14. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 1h1 hour ago #Bears signed 3 FAs to multi-year deals & spent more than $2M on 4 different FAs. W/ twice the space, expect close to twice the signings. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 1h1 hour ago I would expect to see 4-6 multi-year "impact signings" of above average players. Biggest key: age. Expect most of them under 28. #Bears Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 57m57 minutes ago Have been told that ILB & OL are going to be the #Bears main priorities this offseason. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 47m47 minutes ago Aaron Leming Retweeted CHI-TOWN SPORTS DE will be another need. They could use another pure pass rusher. Derek Wolfe is a name to watch for. Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL 42m42 minutes ago Aaron Leming Retweeted joe poogle Solid FA options out there right now. Berry tops that list but unlikely. Rodney McLeod is a name to watch. #Bears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 (edited) More tweets on the last page (288), last post. Edited January 5, 2016 by SoxPride18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) and they plan on hiring a coach, THEN their GM Worst run franchise in sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 I like the move for the Browns. Other sports have shown that coming from a different sport or industry doesn't prevent success. The same old tired attempts weren't working, why not try something different? The results can't be any worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Look at Colangelo. I do think they should have kept Lombardi. He deserved more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 10:03 AM) I like the move for the Browns. Other sports have shown that coming from a different sport or industry doesn't prevent success. The same old tired attempts weren't working, why not try something different? The results can't be any worse. I agree with you. This seems to me like the Browns are taking a fresh look at things. If this was another organization, they'd be lauded. Because it is the Browns, we laugh. It actually seems very anti-browns. Although, they did hire Depodesta after a bunch of questionable moves made in the past day or so by them. Paul has his issues, but he's a pretty accomplished guy in the grand scheme of things and has an understanding of what it takes to be a successful sports organization. The fact that his background in baseball doesn't preclude him from bringing success here. His job isn't to identify the talent, it is to help create a positive and successful organizational culture and dynamic and ensure that works. He can also think strategically and understand the potential value in investments in analytics, etc, and potentially create a newer dynamic to the NFL. NBA and MLB have moved to being very pro advanced stats, but the NFL hasn't gotten their yet, imo. You'd have to think an evolution will get their. Bill B is really one of the few who leverages it (along with Chip), but you wonder where and how else it can truly be used / leveraged. I also think a key question to the whole Chip fiasco is understanding what he learned from his time with the Eagles. I still think he's a great coach, but the question is did he learn from his mistakes in Philly to understand the potential limitations and if he did, than I think he could be an excellent hire. He's an easy target to blast, but if I were a team, out of all the candidates, presuming he answers the aforementioned question well (and it comes off as believable), I would take him over almost any other candidate (outside of Sean Payton). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 11:57 AM) Wait, the Browns hired Jonah Hill? Moneyball 2: Gridiron Metrics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (knightni @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 04:42 PM) Moneyball 2: Gridiron Metrics Go for two and stop punting in positive territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Bears Cap 2016- $90,354,389 Projected Cap 2016- $150,000,000 Cap Space= $59,645,611 Trades: Trade TE Marty Bennett and our 7th round pick for a 5th round pick (5,185,000 cap savings) Cuts: OT Jermon Bushrod 4,300,000 (cap savings) OLB Lamar Houston 4,020,000 (cap savings) SS Antrel Rolle 3,000,000 (cap savings) Cap Space= $76,150,611 Resign: WR Alshon Jeffery 5 years/70 million (14 million cap hit) RB Matt Forte 2 years/10 million (5 million cap hit) ILB Shea McClellin 2 years/5 million (2.5 million cap hit) DE Jarvis Jenkins 3 years/9 million (3 million cap hit) C Will Monthomery 1 year/950K (665K cap hit, same as this year) TE Zach Miller 1 year/1 million (1 million cap hit) OLB Sam Acho 1 year/800K (650K cap hit, slight raise) WR Josh Bellamy 1 year/800K (660K cap hit, same as this year) WR/KR Deonte Thompson 1 year/ 850K (660K cap hit, raise) DE Mitch Unrein 1 year/650K (650K cap hit) Cap Space= $47,365,611 Free Agency: ILB Zach Brown 4 years/16 million (4 million cap hit) FS Rodney McLeod 4 years/18 million (4.5 million cap hit) OT Cordy Glenn 5 years/45 million (9 million cap hit) DE Derek Wolfe 5 years/32 million (6.4 million cap hit) RG Kelechi Osemele 6 years/32 million (5.33 million cap hit) CB Trumaine Johnson 5 years/28 million (5.6 million cap hit) TE Dwayne Allen 4 years/16 million (4 million cap hit) Cap Space= $8,532,278 Draft: 1. CB Vernon Hargreaves III Florida 2. OLB Shilique Calhoun Michigan State 3. DT/DE Anthony Zettel Penn State 4. OG Landon Turner North Carolina 5. QB Kevin Hogan Stanford 5. OT Tyler Johnstone Oregon 6. DE Jihad Ward Illinois 6. WR D.J Foster Arizona State 6. RB Keenan Reynolds Navy QB- Cutler, Fales, Hogan (3) RB- Forte, Langford, Carey (3) WR- Jeffery, White, Royal, Wilson, Bellamy, Thompson (6) TE- Allen, Miller, Lee (3) OL- Glenn, Slauson, Montgomery, Osemele, Long, Omaheh, Leno, Turner (8) DL- Wolfe, Goldman, Jenkins, Zettel, Ferguson, Unrein, Sutton (7) OLB- McPhee, Young, Acho, Calhoun (4) ILB- Brown, McClellin, Anderson, Timu, Barrow (5) CB- Fuller, Johnson, Hargreaves III, Callahan, Hurst, Glenn (6) S- Amos, McLeod, Jones-Quartey, FA (4) ST- Gould, O'Donnell, Long Snapper (3) Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 05:26 PM) Bears Cap 2016- $90,354,389 Projected Cap 2016- $150,000,000 Cap Space= $59,645,611 Trades: Trade TE Marty Bennett and our 7th round pick for a 5th round pick (5,185,000 cap savings) Cuts: OT Jermon Bushrod 4,300,000 (cap savings) OLB Lamar Houston 4,020,000 (cap savings) SS Antrel Rolle 3,000,000 (cap savings) Cap Space= $76,150,611 Resign: WR Alshon Jeffery 5 years/70 million (14 million cap hit) RB Matt Forte 2 years/10 million (5 million cap hit) ILB Shea McClellin 2 years/5 million (2.5 million cap hit) DE Jarvis Jenkins 3 years/9 million (3 million cap hit) C Will Monthomery 1 year/950K (665K cap hit, same as this year) TE Zach Miller 1 year/1 million (1 million cap hit) OLB Sam Acho 1 year/800K (650K cap hit, slight raise) WR Josh Bellamy 1 year/800K (660K cap hit, same as this year) WR/KR Deonte Thompson 1 year/ 850K (660K cap hit, raise) DE Mitch Unrein 1 year/650K (650K cap hit) Cap Space= $47,365,611 Free Agency: ILB Zach Brown 4 years/16 million (4 million cap hit) FS Rodney McLeod 4 years/18 million (4.5 million cap hit) OT Cordy Glenn 5 years/45 million (9 million cap hit) DE Derek Wolfe 5 years/32 million (6.4 million cap hit) RG Kelechi Osemele 6 years/32 million (5.33 million cap hit) CB Trumaine Johnson 5 years/28 million (5.6 million cap hit) TE Dwayne Allen 4 years/16 million (4 million cap hit) Cap Space= $8,532,278 Draft: 1. CB Vernon Hargreaves III Florida 2. OLB Shilique Calhoun Michigan State 3. DT/DE Anthony Zettel Penn State 4. OG Landon Turner North Carolina 5. QB Kevin Hogan Stanford 5. OT Tyler Johnstone Oregon 6. DE Jihad Ward Illinois 6. WR D.J Foster Arizona State 6. RB Keenan Reynolds Navy QB- Cutler, Fales, Hogan (3) RB- Forte, Langford, Carey (3) WR- Jeffery, White, Royal, Wilson, Bellamy, Thompson (6) TE- Allen, Miller, Lee (3) OL- Glenn, Slauson, Montgomery, Osemele, Long, Omaheh, Leno, Turner (8) DL- Wolfe, Goldman, Jenkins, Zettel, Ferguson, Unrein, Sutton (7) OLB- McPhee, Young, Acho, Calhoun (4) ILB- Brown, McClellin, Anderson, Timu, Barrow (5) CB- Fuller, Johnson, Hargreaves III, Callahan, Hurst, Glenn (6) S- Amos, McLeod, Jones-Quartey, FA (4) ST- Gould, O'Donnell, Long Snapper (3) Thoughts? That you have too much free time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I would trade Willie Young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 05:32 PM) That you have too much free time. I'm on break from school lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I honestly wouldn't trade Houston or Young, both of them were a lot better and more noticeable as the season went on. Houston already got a good chunk of his money and his contract isn't terrible, and Young is on a very team friendly contract. The Bears already have a crazy amount under the cap as it is, I don't really think it is necessary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 06:04 PM) I'm on break from school lol. How do you actually understand the NFL salary cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 07:14 PM) I honestly wouldn't trade Houston or Young, both of them were a lot better and more noticeable as the season went on. Houston already got a good chunk of his money and his contract isn't terrible, and Young is on a very team friendly contract. The Bears already have a crazy amount under the cap as it is, I don't really think it is necessary Yeah, they were sneaky good. The 2 of them combined for 13.5 sacks in 857 snaps. The 13.5 sacks would have been good for 4th in the league, and for comparison, Watt and Mack, 1 and 2 in the league in sacks both had over 900 snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 08:12 PM) How do you actually understand the NFL salary cap? http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/cap/2016/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Why do you all like Derek Wolfe so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 09:36 PM) Why do you all like Derek Wolfe so much? Young. Up and coming. I bet a lot of people said last year, "who the hell is Pernell McPhee?". Wolfe is a beast on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 5, 2016 -> 05:53 PM) I would trade Willie Young. Considering he quietly asked for a trade earlier in the year and didn't have much to say with the media on his way out, I would as well. I commend him and Houston on transitioning in a 3-4 defense but they are not true 3-4 guys other than rushing the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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