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QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 02:26 PM)
Ruling out signing players who have prior arrests in the NFL is severely limiting you player base to pull from. It's an unfortunate truth. McDonald seems to be falsely accused of rape (which seems to be happening more and more lately) and if he's Fangio's choice I am happy. It's a one year deal and he's probably being signed under market value because of the false accusations.

 

I completely agree. I know its a moral question but he is being signed for a sports team. He is a useful sports player and ill take him.

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Bear fans wanted Marshall off the team because he had a negative impact on the team chemistry and locker room. Not because he had a history of violence towards women. McDonald will be welcomed with open arms if he plays well on the field and isnt a douchebag in the locker room. Fans care about winning primarily and are willing to except bad guys on their team if they win. Maybe not ALL fans but the majority would say this is true deep down.

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If the Bears were/are comfortable enough to sign him then I feel very good about this signing. Fills a major hole on this team.

 

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post...r-chicago-bears

 

McDonald became a starter in 2011 under Fangio, and developed into a strong run-stopper capable of providing an added dimension as a pass-rusher. McDonald started 14 games for San Francisco in 2014, finishing fifth on the team in tackles. Pro Football Focus rated McDonald No. 12 among 3-4 defensive ends.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 01:33 PM)
They all have checkered pasts, but McDonald and Bryant didnt hold random meandering press conferences and get into fights with the kicker and have locker room cancer labels.

People need to let this go. Every locker has people you berate the kicker as "being only a kicker, not a football player." Peyton Manning once talked about it in a press conference. You cannot hold it against a player when he doesn't take a kicker's opinion as most players don't in football locker rooms. They are usually referred to as "just the kicker." Heck, at the local high school here the kicker is a girl.

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The NFL is creating a "medical timeout" where a neutral medical professional can stop the game to take a player out to get examined.

 

This ought to be real interesting. I wonder if the neutral person will get pressure from teams if they take star players out? It's just like when high schools started having ATs on the sidelines.

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QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 04:01 PM)
The NFL is creating a "medical timeout" where a neutral medical professional can stop the game to take a player out to get examined.

 

This ought to be real interesting. I wonder if the neutral person will get pressure from teams if they take star players out? It's just like when high schools started having ATs on the sidelines.

 

More interesting will be how long it takes the Patriots to figure out how to take advantage of this.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 04:09 PM)
More interesting will be how long it takes the Patriots to figure out how to take advantage of this.

It would probably have hurt them in the SB. It was all brought on by Edelman who should have been taken out of the game and not allowed to return.

 

What kind of response would they have had if he was taken out of the game?

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QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 04:53 PM)
FWIW

 

Mcaskey talked with McDonald's parents before the signing to get a better feel of the man.

 

Also he apparently bought his own plane ticket to fly out and speak with Pace.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/24/bea...ersial-signing/

 

The fact the Bears publicly stated those things as positives makes them look bad IMO. A millionaire desperate for a job spent $500 on a plane ticket? Wow. And what else exactly did they expect Mommy & Daddy to say about him?

 

I'm kind of torn on the issue. We obviously don't know the whole "truth" but where there is smoke, there is usually fire. I'm sure there are plenty of domestic violence cases where something bad happened but charges were never pressed. I don't want to root for and support a serial woman abuser, but I can't say I'd immediately give up my tickets either.

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QUOTE (shipps @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 04:53 PM)
FWIW

 

Mcaskey talked with McDonald's parents before the signing to get a better feel of the man.

 

Also he apparently bought his own plane ticket to fly out and speak with Pace.

 

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/24/bea...ersial-signing/

A millionaire buys a plane ticket to beg for a job that will pay him a lot of money compared to the average Joe. Color me unimpressed. There were 3 incidents with this guy. I know, he is going to sue. Wasn't ARod going to sue?

 

I could see it if it were a piece to get to the Super Bowl, but with where the Bears are at, this move makes no sense to me. Why bring this to the table?

 

Supposedly the Bears comtemplated this for about a week. If you have to think about it for that long, I think the answer should be no.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 08:42 AM)
Its funny how Bernstein has gone from not really liking but understanding the McDonald move at the beginning of his show yesterday, and now has gone full b**** on twitter about it now.

 

Yes this is sport that he tells everyone kills people because of the head trauma and then cannot believe that some of those playing the game appear to less than model citizens.

 

He really should jsut say because o fthe nature of this sport and its participants he will no longer talk about the NFL.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 08:42 AM)
Its funny how Bernstein has gone from not really liking but understanding the McDonald move at the beginning of his show yesterday, and now has gone full b**** on twitter about it now.

 

His assertion that Pace went about this in a psychotic way...actually, i'm struggling to even see in his debased mind what pace did wrong in the process of this signing.

 

I don't like this signing, i hate the mindset of football organizations that don't care how the employees of their billion dollar product may bulldoze people and use their influence to get out of it,

 

but getting internal buy-in for a move you know is not a run-of-the-mill signing, and getting everyone to stand behind it is a sign of a well-run organization, not a bad one.

 

The idea that this could be a bad sign about pace, and not be referencing judgement in signing McDonald is ridiculous.

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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:04 AM)
Yes this is sport that he tells everyone kills people because of the head trauma and then cannot believe that some of those playing the game appear to less than model citizens.

 

He really should jsut say because o fthe nature of this sport and its participants he will no longer talk about the NFL.

 

He also says that he doesnt mind that these people are killing themselves for his entertainment

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:05 AM)
He also says that he doesnt mind that these people are killing themselves for his entertainment

 

 

Yeah he loves the NFL and wants it to continue. He just thinks that if you let your kid play you are an idiot.

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I think I will have my dad call George McCaskey and tell him what I great guy I am, I haven't ever even been accused of beating or raping a woman. I will work for the minimum. I will even pay for my own gas to meet in Halas Hall.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:05 AM)
His assertion that Pace went about this in a psychotic way...actually, i'm struggling to even see in his debased mind what pace did wrong in the process of this signing.

 

I don't like this signing, i hate the mindset of football organizations that don't care how the employees of their billion dollar product may bulldoze people and use their influence to get out of it,

 

but getting internal buy-in for a move you know is not a run-of-the-mill signing, and getting everyone to stand behind it is a sign of a well-run organization, not a bad one.

 

The idea that this could be a bad sign about pace, and not be referencing judgement in signing McDonald is ridiculous.

 

The thing about this to me is that it is a depth move. If McDonald f-s up, he is gone, very little financial hit. It isnt like they just went and signed Hardy for a max contract and raised their middle finger to the world.

 

Is it a PR hit? absolutely. I cringed when they played Pace's opening press conference and he said he was going to stress character. That sound bite will be played ad nauseum by B&B for the rest of the season. But this is a league of questionable people, you cannot avoid them. You want them to be good people, but sometimes they are not.

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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 09:51 AM)
But this is a league of questionable people, you cannot avoid them. You want them to be good people, but sometimes they are not.

 

I disagree on this, I don't mind giving second chances to people, but domestic abuse charges and sexual assault charges are a not the same as possession or dui charges. There are so, so many players that do not have anything like that, and they could have survived a year without mcdonald easily.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 10:18 AM)
I disagree on this, I don't mind giving second chances to people, but domestic abuse charges and sexual assault charges are a not the same as possession or dui charges. There are so, so many players that do not have anything like that, and they could have survived a year without mcdonald easily.

 

For the record I am not equating DUI or possession with rape, I don't believe it is or should be treated the same. This league is full of violent people who do violent things, and sometimes that leaks into their personal life. I bet if we looked up and down the Bears roster we would find some issues that go beyond dui and possession

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QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 25, 2015 -> 07:05 AM)
His assertion that Pace went about this in a psychotic way...actually, i'm struggling to even see in his debased mind what pace did wrong in the process of this signing.

 

I don't like this signing, i hate the mindset of football organizations that don't care how the employees of their billion dollar product may bulldoze people and use their influence to get out of it,

 

but getting internal buy-in for a move you know is not a run-of-the-mill signing, and getting everyone to stand behind it is a sign of a well-run organization, not a bad one.

 

The idea that this could be a bad sign about pace, and not be referencing judgement in signing McDonald is ridiculous.

I agree. I think the way the Bears have handled everything in regards to this was pretty solid. Smells like a well ran organization with strong lines of communication, etc. Plus it was important to be in front of this vs. being behind and I think they basically immediately handled the situation given the background of the player they brought in.

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