dasox24 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:04 PM) So do you think they take White if the Marshall move never occurred? Yes. If he was BPA, then you have to. It's why the Jets took Leonard Williams even though they have 2 Pro Bowl guys who play his position in Wilkerson and Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 07:37 PM) I love how everyone believes in BPA until push comes to shove and they want to draft need. Glad Pace did what he believes in. Marshall was the Ozzie Guillen of bears. His time was done. Good post. I wasn't a huge fan of White coming into the draft, but I liked him well enough. I'm more than fine with the pick. The Bears were in a tough spot. No one else was really worthy of the 7th pick. Just a tough year to have the 7th pick with this being such a weak draft. Edited May 1, 2015 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) I think Bear fans will be happy with White come September. White is a true #1 receiver with size and speed. Edited May 1, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) I think Bear fans will be happy with White come September. White is a true #1 receiver with size and speed. At 7, a player pick this high has to be an impact player. White could be that dynamic player we dont have in the offense for Cutler and after Cutler is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (bulokis @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:09 PM) At 7, a player pick this high has to be an impact player. White could be that dynamic player we dont have in the offense for Cutler and after Cutler is gone Many people had him ranked above Cooper who went #4. He will wear #13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I get a kick out of Collins not being the first safety taken and him slipping so far. I know a lot of people who wanted him at 7 and ya, no.....Id take him in the 2nd though, even though Im comfortable with Role/Mundy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) I get a kick out of Collins not being the first safety taken and him slipping so far. I know a lot of people who wanted him at 7 and ya, no.....Id take him in the 2nd though, even though Im comfortable with Role/Mundy. If we could pull off Collins in the 2nd, that would be amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:25 PM) I get a kick out of Collins not being the first safety taken and him slipping so far. I know a lot of people who wanted him at 7 and ya, no.....Id take him in the 2nd though, even though Im comfortable with Role/Mundy. If Collins or Gregory are there at 7, I would be extremely happy. It's becoming more and more apparent that Bennett will be dealt or cut. Maxx Williams is a sleeper pick for the Bears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ok finally got to it. You don't win Super Bowls by drafting WR and DB in the first round. Build inside out for f***'s sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 The Bears can grab a QB next year in a much deeper QB draft. I bet they go defense heavy in the next few rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald - 0 super bowl titles. You have to build inside out. I hate the pick. But don't worry, guy will go for 1,400 and 10 TD regularly, and the Bears will miss the playoffs regularly, too. Look at the teams winning Super Bowls. They don't invest in WR in the draft. I think the highest picked WR to win a super bowl the last decade Is Hakeem Nicks at 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald - 0 super bowl titles. You have to build inside out. I hate the pick. But don't worry, guy will go for 1,400 and 10 TD regularly, and the Bears will miss the playoffs regularly, too. Look at the teams winning Super Bowls. They don't invest in WR in the draft. I think the highest picked WR to win a super bowl the last decade Is Hakeem Nicks at 29. Seattle traded a 1st round pick for Percy Harvin. The Ravens spent a 2nd on Torrey Smith and just spent a 1st on Breshod Perriman. The Broncos spent a first on Demarius Thomas. Colts drafted Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison in first round. The 49ers drafted Michael Crabtree in the first round. Super Bowl team the Cardinals had Larry Fitzgerald. So no, the Patriots do not spend 1st rounders on Wide Receivers, but plenty of other super bowl teams spent draft resources for wide receiver talent. This is just a stupid hot take that means nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) Seattle traded a 1st round pick for Percy Harvin. The Ravens spent a 2nd on Torrey Smith and just spent a 1st on Breshod Perriman. The Broncos spent a first on Demarius Thomas. Colts drafted Reggie Wayne and Marvin Harrison in first round. The 49ers drafted Michael Crabtree in the first round. Super Bowl team the Cardinals had Larry Fitzgerald. So no, the Patriots do not spend 1st rounders on Wide Receivers, but plenty of other super bowl teams spent draft resources for wide receiver talent. This is just a stupid hot take that means nothing. Making the Super Bowl is not winning the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald - 0 super bowl titles. You have to build inside out. I hate the pick. But don't worry, guy will go for 1,400 and 10 TD regularly, and the Bears will miss the playoffs regularly, too. Look at the teams winning Super Bowls. They don't invest in WR in the draft. I think the highest picked WR to win a super bowl the last decade Is Hakeem Nicks at 29. Maybe the Bears arent competing for a Super Bowl this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 11:09 PM) Making the Super Bowl is not winning the Super Bowl. Great point man. You totally figured out the NFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 11:09 PM) Making the Super Bowl is not winning the Super Bowl. This is seriously your best argument against drafting a wide receiver? Just...no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:57 PM) Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald - 0 super bowl titles. You have to build inside out. I hate the pick. But don't worry, guy will go for 1,400 and 10 TD regularly, and the Bears will miss the playoffs regularly, too. Look at the teams winning Super Bowls. They don't invest in WR in the draft. I think the highest picked WR to win a super bowl the last decade Is Hakeem Nicks at 29. I think you're trying to make something out of nothing. Many of the SB winners over the last 16 years have had 1st-round WRs on their team. Let's take a quick look at SB winners since 2000. 8 of the 16 have had 1st round WRs on their team. Now, they didn't necessarily all draft those guys. But in instances like Keyshawn and Harvin, their teams gave up 1st rounders to get them. Or with Plaxico, the Giants dished out a big contract to get him from the Steelers. To me, having to do that is the same as actually using a 1st round pick on a WR. Rams - Torry Holt Bucs - Keyshawn Johnson Colts - Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne Giants - Plaxico Burress Steelers - Santonio Holmes Saints - Robert Meachem Giants - Hakeem Nicks Seattle - Percy Harvin There are many ways to build a team. Selecting a WR in the 1st round does not seem to correlate to not winning super bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Only three of those teams actually drafted those guys, and Meachem was a bust. Most of those WR wound up being released or traded for pennies on the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Dez Bryant, Larry Fitzgerald - 0 super bowl titles. You have to build inside out. I hate the pick. But don't worry, guy will go for 1,400 and 10 TD regularly, and the Bears will miss the playoffs regularly, too. Look at the teams winning Super Bowls. They don't invest in WR in the draft. I think the highest picked WR to win a super bowl the last decade Is Hakeem Nicks at 29. This logic is flawed. One team wins the title every year (not necessarily the best team either) and there are a ton of other variables. You could do the same thing with NBA point guards since Isiah Thomas. Just because Chauncey Billups and Tony Parker are the best pg's with rings in that stretch (I'm not counting Kidd or Payton because they were well past their prime) doesn't mean you pass on a potential stud at the position if you don't love your other options. Edited May 1, 2015 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Would it be worth a trade up to get Gregory to the Bears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Devin Funchess has to regretting his decision now. I'm not surprised he's still out there but he clearly isnt ready to be an NFL receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I told you there was gonna be a lot of trades.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ May 1, 2015 -> 07:22 AM) Would it be worth a trade up to get Gregory to the Bears? I say no. Way too risky. Just the pick alone might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I wonder how far Gregory drops. His mental profile must really be scary, because he is a first round talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 1, 2015 -> 08:27 AM) I wonder how far Gregory drops. His mental profile must really be scary, because he is a first round talent He was on Polian's do not draft list. He mentioned he had off the field issues, and then quietly said that's not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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