GGajewski18 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Locking up Jeffery long term was a priority. Now, it's a must with uncertainty of White. If he does come back healthy for next year, White, Jeffery, Royal ( 2 years), and Wilson is a good WR core for long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 How many players lose their rookie season to injury and have become impact players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) How many players lose their rookie season to injury and have become impact players? Not sure but White could be the 3rd one this year. Fowler and Landon Collins, who both ironically had been talked about for the Bears, are out as well. I don't see any reason why he can't come back from this though. Hopefully Gase is still around next year and White just uses the time off to soak up the playbook for next year. Edited August 15, 2015 by scs787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 12:49 PM) Not sure but White could be the 3rd one this year. Fowler and Landon Collins, who both ironically had been talked about for the Bears, are out as well. I don't see any reason why he can't come back from this though. Hopefully Gase is still around next year and White just uses the time off to soak up the playbook for next year. IMO wide receivers still take a couple years to get up to speed most of the time anyway, even the really good ones. Doesn't mean they don't produce their first year, but they don't usually take off until years 2+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Josina Anderson - The fact White is also having a rod inserted into his tibia is illuminating when there are non-surgical options. Indicates degree of injury Would love to get ptact in here. Would him getting a rod put in help more vs the non surgical procedures in preventing potential flare ups? Will a rod slow him up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Jeffery, Royal, Wilson... yikes. My prediction goes from 6-10 to 5-11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Welp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Total s*** show per usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) Kevin White likely out for season ... Sigh Not a good way for new GM Ryan Pace to start out. Edited August 15, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:20 AM) Kevin White likely out for season ... Sigh They're saying 6 games now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Has a team ever finished with the #1 pick 2 straight years? The Bucs look f***ing bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 From what I've read and heard: It seems like White's recovery time is 3-6 months but will be 100% after. This is a smart move even though it really sucks because I wanted to see him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 04:46 PM) They're saying 6 games now. If he has surgery he will not play a down in 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 09:11 PM) Has a team ever finished with the #1 pick 2 straight years? The Bucs look f***ing bad lol, Got to love people overreacting in week 1 of the preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 This is just terrible. For a raw receiver, he needs reps, reps and reps. His first year will be a complete wash. Not that the Bears were going to be better than 7-9 anyway, but now one of the few players I was excited to watch is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:08 PM) lol, Got to love people overreacting in week 1 of the preseason. A ton of my Twitter feed was completely freaking out about Jameis and the Bucs after last night. Granted, I didn't watch any of the game last night but cmon people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) In the things could always be worse department, the Raiders have won a total of 56 games the last 12 seasons. Edited August 16, 2015 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 07:49 AM) A ton of my Twitter feed was completely freaking out about Jameis and the Bucs after last night. Granted, I didn't watch any of the game last night but cmon people. The problem is that their OL is awful and OT Demar Dotson went down last night. They have playmakers on offense and a rookie QB that should flash positive things and make mistakes. I think about 6-10 is right for Tampa Bay. If Winston is reallllly good, that trajectory can change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 08:19 AM) In the things could always be worse department, the Raiders have won a total of 56 games the last 12 seasons. And they signed Trent Richardson who still really sucks at football. http://mobile.sportingnews.com/article/465...co%2FYPFl840PC2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 01:56 PM) Would love to get ptact in here. Would him getting a rod put in help more vs the non surgical procedures in preventing potential flare ups? Will a rod slow him up? It's a fine line between the surgery vs. conservative care. It's been long enough that I would assume all conservative care has been tried, short of rest for a few months. the surgery will not effect his speed. A rod in the shaft of the bone will not effect the muscles and soft tissue, besides any surgical complication like infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 09:24 AM) The problem is that their OL is awful and OT Demar Dotson went down last night. They have playmakers on offense and a rookie QB that should flash positive things and make mistakes. I think about 6-10 is right for Tampa Bay. If Winston is reallllly good, that trajectory can change. Exactly. Bucs starting two rookies on the OL was going to be a concern and that was before Dotson going down. Hopefully it's just a sprain but who knows. Last year this team had zero pass rush, a starting LB and two starting safeties who couldn't play in this defense and lost their OC in preseason and was stuck with a guy who was a QB coach in college. Of course I'm a fan and will think every Sunday that this team will win and maybe the breaks in other games will go our way and compete for a playoff spot but reality is 6-10 would be a huge improvement. That'd be tripling the win total and any rational fan can't complain about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 QUOTE (zenryan @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 11:08 PM) lol, Got to love people overreacting in week 1 of the preseason. Dude their #1 offense couldn't move the ball against Minnesota's #2 D. I never overreact to preseason. I typically don't even watch, but Tampa looked horrid yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenryan Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Aug 16, 2015 -> 07:17 PM) Dude their #1 offense couldn't move the ball against Minnesota's #2 D. I never overreact to preseason. I typically don't even watch, but Tampa looked horrid yesterday. yet here you are, totally overreacting. so its the end of the world for a team playing with a rookie to look pretty subpar against a team playing their second preseason game. and the Bucs pulled Evans,Jackson and Martin at the same time the Vikings pulled their starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 15, 2015 -> 05:25 PM) Not a good way for new GM Ryan Pace to start out. McDonald or White? It seems to be a failure in free agent scouting, player character evaluation, and medical study of potential draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 17, 2015 -> 07:24 AM) McDonald or White? It seems to be a failure in free agent scouting, player character evaluation, and medical study of potential draft picks. What medical study could have predicted a stress fracture? Edit: i have read conflicting things. One is that he hurt himself in OTAs, and another that they knew in the combine. If they knew in the combine, then they were stupid to waste a year on a pick. If he hurt himself in OTAs, there isnt anything they could have looked at that would have tipped them off that a stress fracture was coming. He was healthy in college Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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