Dick Allen Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 08:37 AM) All you have to do is look at the Jacoby Ellsbury and Hunter PEnce deals to understand why. Granted he doesn't have as much power, but at the same time, contracts are only going up from here. By the time Eaton were to hit FA in 2018, $20 million a year probably won't be out of line for a guy of his skill set. We are getting his entire contract of 7 years for $43 milion, including two free agent years covered for under $20 million if exercised. $1.5 million if not. That"s the thing. They get 5 years minimun of Eaton for what one season costs for Jon Lester. And you get 2 club options, and 6 or 7 years from now $10 million a year is going to be less than what it is now. There is a bit of a gamble here for the White Sox, but they hardly are way out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmmmmbeeer Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 I'm starting to feel bad for these guys on these amazingly club-friendly deals . While I understand what y'all are saying about seeing what Avi can do this season, I think now is the time to strike a deal with him. I think he's going to be a very impactful player and if he plays like I expect him to this season, it's going to be costly to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 10:19 AM) I'm starting to feel bad for these guys on these amazingly club-friendly deals . While I understand what y'all are saying about seeing what Avi can do this season, I think now is the time to strike a deal with him. I think he's going to be a very impactful player and if he plays like I expect him to this season, it's going to be costly to pay him. I don't know that you can feel bad for Adam Eaton. The White Sox just gave him $25 million over the next five years... no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Honestly, there's almost no risk to this deal. Up until that last year and the two options, Eaton is basically being paid high-end backup money. IMO, this may be Hahn's best extension yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (mmmmmbeeer @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 09:19 AM) I'm starting to feel bad for these guys on these amazingly club-friendly deals . While I understand what y'all are saying about seeing what Avi can do this season, I think now is the time to strike a deal with him. I think he's going to be a very impactful player and if he plays like I expect him to this season, it's going to be costly to pay him. I think you'll see them move to lock up Avi as early as midseason, IF he shows the growth and maturity we want to see. I also think we should trust RH's sense of timing on these matters - he seems to know when is the right time. Edited March 21, 2015 by Stan Bahnsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Hahn is such a f***ing boss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 10:53 AM) I don't know that you can feel bad for Adam Eaton. The White Sox just gave him $25 million over the next five years... no matter what. That's a heckuva "injury insurance plan". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) That's a heckuva "injury insurance plan". welcome back Balta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 10:59 AM) Honestly, there's almost no risk to this deal. Up until that last year and the two options, Eaton is basically being paid high-end backup money. IMO, this may be Hahn's best extension yet. Nah, that's still Sale without a doubt. This is a good move though. I wanted the Sox to wait one more year on Eaton because of health, but for this price it's difficult to complain. Also love this MO of the double team option years. Really adds a lot to the potential value of these contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 04:09 PM) Nah, that's still Sale without a doubt. This is a good move though. I wanted the Sox to wait one more year on Eaton because of health, but for this price it's difficult to complain. Also love this MO of the double team option years. Really adds a lot to the potential value of these contracts. Just reviewed the Sale contract and you're right. For some reason I thought his two option years were quite expensive but I was wrong. The last option is only $13.5M, which is beyond ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananarchy Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 21, 2015 -> 04:47 PM) Just reviewed the Sale contract and you're right. For some reason I thought his two option years were quite expensive but I was wrong. The last option is only $13.5M, which is beyond ridiculous. It's a silly good contract. Obviously, Sale's health is a potential concern, but Hahn managed to capitalize on that perception and sign him to a team friendly contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Anyone talking about locking up Garcia long-term now probably needs their head examined...unless you're talking five years $12m or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) I heard an interview with Eaton where he talked about it being an intense ~three weeks of negotiations and how he felt very stressed by it, struggling to sleep, etc. What that tells me is that Hahn got in there and convinced Eaton and his agent that he needed to sign a deal right now. That's impressive. Once you've got the guy where he feels like he needs to walk away with a deal, you've won. He may have been able to double his money by waiting for the offseason, potentially, or at least he should have been able to walk away from the negotiating table with that in mind. I don't think he had that in mind. Edited March 22, 2015 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I like Eaton a lot. He does a lot of things right on the baseball field. Now he just needs to stay on the baseball field and keep developing!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 04:25 PM) I like Eaton a lot. He does a lot of things right on the baseball field. Now he just needs to stay on the baseball field and keep developing!!! i too like him, i think there is really not too many who dislikes him. for me, he brings that old school kind of a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Mar 20, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) Right, but that's the risk of any contract extension. I think his injury risk is definitely reflected in the price, considering the guy already has two full years of service time. Which is why I think it is a pretty even deal. The risks are pretty high with Eaton so that brought the price for the Sox down to a reasonable level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Señor Ding-Dong Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 It'll be interesting to see what we do with the outfield after this season, especially if Hawkins looks primed for a ML role at some point in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) It'll be interesting to see what we do with the outfield after this season, especially if Hawkins looks primed for a ML role at some point in 2016. It is a problem I hope we have, because it means a lot of people are succeeding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) It'll be interesting to see what we do with the outfield after this season, especially if Hawkins looks primed for a ML role at some point in 2016. That would be a good problem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 11:29 AM) It'll be interesting to see what we do with the outfield after this season, especially if Hawkins looks primed for a ML role at some point in 2016. I'm guessing Hawkins is more 2017, if he makes it. He's still just 21 years old, would be 23 for the entire 2017 season. And he has showed he's still quite raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 23, 2015 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I still can't believe how old Hawkins looks physically though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 QUOTE (bmags @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) I still can't believe how old Hawkins looks physically though. He looks like a man in his prime in person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) It'll be interesting to see what we do with the outfield after this season, especially if Hawkins looks primed for a ML role at some point in 2016. well, as some has said, it is a nice position to be in, this season, after the playoff, i would like to reevaluate the outfield. the sox are tied into a friendly contract with Melky, and the other 2 the sox have control. continue to let Hawkins develop. the sox really doesn't have to make a move in the roster, concerning OF, 1b or dh till after next yr. so, let see how things develop and see how Avi does in the outfield. Edited March 24, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 24, 2015 -> 07:24 AM) well, as some has said, it is a nice position to be in, this season, after the playoff, i would like to reevaluate the outfield. the sox are tied into a friendly contract with Melky, and the other 2 the sox have control. continue to let Hawkins develop. the sox really doesn't have to make a move in the roster, concerning OF, 1b or dh till after next yr. so, let see how things develop and see how Avi does in the outfield. If all 3 of them are playing well and Hawkins were to have a good year at AA, you send him to AAA and he's the obvious callup in case of injury. That's not a bad thing at all and that would likely give him a chance at some point the next eyar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 24, 2015 Share Posted March 24, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 23, 2015 -> 12:44 PM) I'm guessing Hawkins is more 2017, if he makes it. He's still just 21 years old, would be 23 for the entire 2017 season. And he has showed he's still quite raw. He has already jokingly predicted 2016 MLB Roy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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