juddling Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Mark Buehrle THEY CALL IT THE HOTBOX, and it’s one of the more dreadful initiation rites any athlete might face. There’s hardly enough room for one person, let alone multiple bodies, inside the bathrooms found in the back corner of the large coach buses teams regularly use for travel. Yet on the 2000 Chicago White Sox, “there were five or six rookies just stuffed into the bus bathroom,” Mark Buehrle recalls, describing the worst parts of the hazing he faced as a21-year-old. “Every road trip, every bus trip, it was like, ‘All right, what’s going to happen to us now?’ I hated it. I hated getting picked on.” No matter, as a newcomer to baseball’s hidebound culture of hierarchy, all Buehrle could do was quietly take it. But he didn’t forgive, he definitely didn’t forget, and eventually an opportunity to deliver some payback came when White Sox players and alumni gathered at U.S. Cellular Field in 2010 to retire Frank Thomas’s No. 35. At 31, with a decade of service time to his name, Buehrle entered the trainer’s room inside the clubhouse and locked eyes with James Baldwin, the retired right-hander who once tormented him. “Hey Buehrle,” came the all-too-familiar command, “go get me a Jack and Coke!” Instead, Buehrle unloaded after a decade’s worth of grudging silence. “I walked up to him and said, ‘F–k you,’ right to his face, and then shouted, ‘God, that felt so good,’” the left-hander recalls, grinning happily at the memory. “Before, he was above me, and I couldn’t mouth off to him, but here he is out of the game and I finally got to.” (More at link with MB and today's Blue Jays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 i still wish MB was on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I've wanted to say that to JB after some of his starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 01:51 PM) I've wanted to say that to JB after some of his starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 06:51 AM) I've wanted to say that to JB after some of his starts. Babip anomaly 2000. For half a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (juddling @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 07:41 AM) Mark Buehrle THEY CALL IT THE HOTBOX, and it’s one of the more dreadful initiation rites any athlete might face. There’s hardly enough room for one person, let alone multiple bodies, inside the bathrooms found in the back corner of the large coach buses teams regularly use for travel. Yet on the 2000 Chicago White Sox, “there were five or six rookies just stuffed into the bus bathroom,” Mark Buehrle recalls, describing the worst parts of the hazing he faced as a21-year-old. “Every road trip, every bus trip, it was like, ‘All right, what’s going to happen to us now?’ I hated it. I hated getting picked on.” No matter, as a newcomer to baseball’s hidebound culture of hierarchy, all Buehrle could do was quietly take it. But he didn’t forgive, he definitely didn’t forget, and eventually an opportunity to deliver some payback came when White Sox players and alumni gathered at U.S. Cellular Field in 2010 to retire Frank Thomas’s No. 35. At 31, with a decade of service time to his name, Buehrle entered the trainer’s room inside the clubhouse and locked eyes with James Baldwin, the retired right-hander who once tormented him. “Hey Buehrle,” came the all-too-familiar command, “go get me a Jack and Coke!” Instead, Buehrle unloaded after a decade’s worth of grudging silence. “I walked up to him and said, ‘F–k you,’ right to his face, and then shouted, ‘God, that felt so good,’” the left-hander recalls, grinning happily at the memory. “Before, he was above me, and I couldn’t mouth off to him, but here he is out of the game and I finally got to.” (More at link with MB and today's Blue Jays) That's awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 (edited) Good dude. Hope he keeps pitching as long as 30+ starts/ 200+ innings continues. Don't retire with gas in the tank. It would be ironic if he got his 200th win at Yankee Stadium a week from Wednesday. Edited March 29, 2015 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Anyone think he'd be interested in returning to the Sox on a short deal after this season? I'm not sure how much money he'd command. Would round out the rotation pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) Anyone think he'd be interested in returning to the Sox on a short deal after this season? I'm not sure how much money he'd command. Would round out the rotation pretty well. To be fair...we already are going to need to find a slot for a different LHer this offseason. Mark! won't be a 6th starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3GamesToLove Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) To be fair...we already are going to need to find a slot for a different LHer this offseason. Mark! won't be a 6th starter. Right. If the Sox can get rid of Danks at some point he might be a decent option. You'd think that even if they can't retain Samardzija they'll dip into the top-end starter market, though. That might preclude a back-end signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 08:13 PM) Right. If the Sox can get rid of Danks at some point he might be a decent option. You'd think that even if they can't retain Samardzija they'll dip into the top-end starter market, though. That might preclude a back-end signing. imo, there will be several factors that will take priority. the actual performance of both Jeff S and Danks. lastly how the rest of the starters do, outside Sale and Q. this will be a very important yr and the magnifying glass will be train on all players. all that aside, Mark B has always had a great relations with the sox org and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) Right. If the Sox can get rid of Danks at some point he might be a decent option. You'd think that even if they can't retain Samardzija they'll dip into the top-end starter market, though. That might preclude a back-end signing. I'd love to see Mark back at home, to this day I regret paying Danks 5/65 and letting Mark leave for less, a Sale/Shark/Q/Buehrle/Rodon rotation sounds awfully nice in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 the JB comment sounded like a little teasing on both parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I love Mark Buehrle. It'd be ridiculous to think about but I wouldn't mind Sale-Samardzjia-Q-Rodon-Buehrle. All the lefties! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) I love Mark Buehrle. It'd be ridiculous to think about but I wouldn't mind Sale-Samardzjia-Q-Rodon-Buehrle. All the lefties! Wouldn't you need to keep Danks then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 08:24 PM) Wouldn't you need to keep Danks then? Ehhhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 07:47 PM) the JB comment sounded like a little teasing on both parts. Oh? When someone treats you like s*** and you finally work up the guts to say f*** you to his face, that is teasing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I'd love to bring MB back on a 2 year deal in the off-season to be our 5th starter. Obviously the money would have to work but I'd take him over Danks and/or Noesi in a heartbeat. He won't do it, but I'm sure Mark could pitch effectively until he was 45 if he had that kind of desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 30, 2015 -> 03:57 AM) Oh? When someone treats you like s*** and you finally work up the guts to say f*** you to his face, that is teasing? for me it is perception, i took the whole comment as a friendly banter. the way, he said afterword "how much that felt great" something to that extent. also a friendly banter from JB about getting him a drink. in other words, treating him as a rookie all over again. but that is me and how i took the comment. Edited March 30, 2015 by LDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shysocks Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 30, 2015 -> 08:55 AM) you it is perception, i took the whole comment as a friendly banter. the way, he said afterword "how much that felt great" something to that extent. also a friendly banter from JB about getting him a drink. in other words, treating him as a rookie all over again. but that is me and how i took the comment. I think you are misinterpreting it. It seems like Mark had built up a lot of anger and he had no interest in being friendly with Baldwin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 30, 2015 -> 02:02 PM) I think you are misinterpreting it. It seems like Mark had built up a lot of anger and he had no interest in being friendly with Baldwin. well, then i was wrong. i took it as a friendly banter. my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (shysocks @ Mar 30, 2015 -> 09:02 AM) I think you are misinterpreting it. It seems like Mark had built up a lot of anger and he had no interest in being friendly with Baldwin. I agree with LDF. JB was giving MB crap by saying get me a drink like the rookies had to do. MB was finally not a younger player so he got to tell him off. It's all fun and games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Mar 29, 2015 -> 10:57 PM) Oh? When someone treats you like s*** and you finally work up the guts to say f*** you to his face, that is teasing? It was all just rookies being low man on the totem pole and they had to take a little hazing. It was just teasing by saying that to JB because he started the teasing by telling MB to get him a drink. JB really didn't expect him to. It was a joke. People are far to sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Seems Mark has had a build up for a few years. I found this article from February 07 that goes along with the latest article about Mark. "James Baldwin got on us when we were rookies, me and [Jon] Garland," said a very candid Buehrle of his teammate during the 2000 and 2001 seasons. "There are a lot of things I would like to do to that guy, and I kind of almost lost respect for him. "You understand when you are a rookie, you have to have stuff done to you. But some guys take it overboard and do way too much stuff. There was so much stuff, I remember that it got annoying." http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/1818904/ Don't know if it was in good fun or not, does not sound like it but I wasn't there. No matter, I think its hilarious and pretty much what one would expect from Mark. Thanks for sharing the read, still got nothing but love for Buehrle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 31, 2015 -> 12:42 AM) I agree with LDF. JB was giving MB crap by saying get me a drink like the rookies had to do. MB was finally not a younger player so he got to tell him off. It's all fun and games. thanks ptatc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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