iWiN4PreP Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 We have a street fight, a hell in a cell, a ladder match at wrestlemania. Fun. Bit of a clusterf*** for sure, all these multi-people matches being thrown together with little build. Surely will have the Y2J vs. AJ Styles match that hopes to be a bit of a classic. I'm definitely ok with the card (not thrilled, but not terribly upset, outside of the main event title match) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I think the card is the best they could really do with Cena and Seth and Orton and Cesaro all out, it is what it's. I'm not gonna beat a dead horse by pointing out Roman getting boo'd every show or the lack of creativity. I'll just hope the matches are good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Vince's idea of getting creative was definitely just making everything a gimmick match. Their problem is they have no idea how to build characters or storylines so no one cares about most of these matches. I have no doubt it'll be a fun show but it's still a distant 3rd on what I'm looking forward to going to that weekend and that's kind of sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (Brian @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) I think the card is the best they could really do with Cena and Seth and Orton and Cesaro all out, it is what it's. I'm not gonna beat a dead horse by pointing out Roman getting boo'd every show or the lack of creativity. I'll just hope the matches are good. Usos-Dudleys, new day-LoN and Kalisto-Ryback are actually wrestlemania matches. The ME was always going to be what it is but they could have loaded up the under card and they botched that. Not to mention that this Shane-Taker story has just become a joke after the initial fun of Shane's return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I agree with the recent assements in this thread. There are some sad matches: Usos-Dudleys, new day-LoN and Kalisto-Ryback The main event is terrible. But they do have some highlights: Ladder match, HIAC, AJ Styles vs. Jericho. So, I think it's a decent card. They could have done more with the buildup, they really failed on storyline progression. Even the one with the most thought, Aj Styles vs. Jericho seems a bit stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) Usos-Dudleys, new day-LoN and Kalisto-Ryback are actually wrestlemania matches. The ME was always going to be what it is but they could have loaded up the under card and they botched that. Not to mention that this Shane-Taker story has just become a joke after the initial fun of Shane's return. The Usos don't do anything for me. So boring. It's a shame the current generation of fans don't appreciate the Dudleys. Best tag team of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 09:49 PM) The Usos don't do anything for me. So boring. It's a shame the current generation of fans don't appreciate the Dudleys. Best tag team of all time. Bubby Ray needs to heel singles run. TNA is awful but one thing they absolutely killed it with was the Bully Ray character. He could be one of the top heels on the roster easily. Wish they'd break them up. Edited March 22, 2016 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 09:52 PM) Bubby Ray needs to heel singles run. TNA is awful but one thing they absolutely killed it with was the Bully Ray character. He could be one of the top heels on the roster easily. Wish they'd brake them up. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (iWin4Ron @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 09:48 PM) I agree with the recent assements in this thread. There are some sad matches: The main event is terrible. But they do have some highlights: Ladder match, HIAC, AJ Styles vs. Jericho. So, I think it's a decent card. They could have done more with the buildup, they really failed on storyline progression. Even the one with the most thought, Aj Styles vs. Jericho seems a bit stale. Ambrose vs Brock should be amazing. Pretty damn good build too. Why did they go with the multi man with the IC belt? Why not the US title? Kalisto is a ladder match specialist. IC belt could have been Owens vs Zayn. Does that make too much sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 3 of these matches will probably be pre show matches. Hopefully the crowd gets there on time but a practically 6 hour show is a lot and to have Roman vs hhh go last, the crowd will be more dead than expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 This is boring chants during the Ambrose/Stroman match lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 What a terrible ME on raw. How was the beginning of it? Decent show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Besides Kevin Owens that show was god awful again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) What a terrible ME on raw. How was the beginning of it? Decent show? Owens and Styles Had an absolutely fantastic match until a Jericho distraction finish but I understand going that route. Besides that...god awful. Edited March 22, 2016 by Rowand44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 04:03 AM) This is boring chants during the Ambrose/Stroman match lol I really can't believe they don't have two better faces than Reigns and Ambrose. I really wish they'd stop forcing Ambrose on us against bigger guys, as nothing he does in the ring is believable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 04:08 AM) Owens and Styles Had an absolutely fantastic match until a Jericho distraction finish but I understand going that route. Besides that...god awful. Owens is easily the best overall thing they have going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 21, 2016 -> 10:05 PM) What a terrible ME on raw. How was the beginning of it? Decent show? First hour was okay. Owens vs AJ was great. Good vignette with Ambrose that's worth watching. Rest of the show was unbelievably bad. They're really botching the Mania build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 (edited) Reigns in ME at WM is such a mistake this will blow up on VKM. Edited March 22, 2016 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 06:18 AM) Reigns in ME at WM is such a mistake this will blow up on VKM. He counted on people buying tickets to Mania just because it's Mania, and he was right to do so. Until people stop attending events and subscribing to the Network, Vince will do what he wants. TV ratings don't mean as much as they used to, so lower Raw ratings are not enough for him to worry about "the WWE Universe"'s approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 QUOTE (The Critic @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 10:53 AM) He counted on people buying tickets to Mania just because it's Mania, and he was right to do so. Until people stop attending events and subscribing to the Network, Vince will do what he wants. TV ratings don't mean as much as they used to, so lower Raw ratings are not enough for him to worry about "the WWE Universe"'s approval. 2.44 rating last night VKM better start caring terrible for Raw this close to WM, the part timers are gone in 2 weeks. Rating will be under 2.00 by end of year If VKM stays on this course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 08:02 PM) 2.44 rating last night VKM better start caring terrible for Raw this close to WM, the part timers are gone in 2 weeks. Rating will be under 2.00 by end of year If VKM stays on this course. Guys will start returning soon. Maybe an Angle return afte Mania will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 You get the post raw bump. Takeover will probably tip if nxt people are coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 Speaking of NXT, Emma is back. Her Evil Emma character has been fantastic so let's see how bad they screw her up this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 23, 2016 Share Posted March 23, 2016 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Mar 22, 2016 -> 10:14 PM) Speaking of NXT, Emma is back. Her Evil Emma character has been fantastic so let's see how bad they screw her up this time. Hopefully she doesn't try and shoplift anything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Daniel Bryan cancels Daniel Bryan Appreciation Night at MSG just a few days away as well as all future appearances. Meltzer says there's a story behind it so looks like we'll be hearing it soon. Not sure if health or business related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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