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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Mar 31, 2015 -> 10:48 AM)
http://www.baseballamerica.com/majors/2015...alent-rankings/

 

Baseball America released a farm system power ranking of sorts, reposting their top ten and highlighting some sleepers.

 

I have a hard time believing the White Sox rank that low. I would have them more around 16-17.

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QUOTE (Dunt @ Mar 31, 2015 -> 08:17 PM)
I have a hard time believing the White Sox rank that low. I would have them more around 16-17.

 

i know it is an opinion but why?? what has they added to move them up to 16+.

 

btw, i am just using this as a discussion, not as an argument.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Mar 31, 2015 -> 02:23 PM)
i know it is an opinion but why?? what has they added to move them up to 16+.

 

btw, i am just using this as a discussion, not as an argument.

 

I think 20 is a good spot, after Rodon not a lot of proven guys

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:36 AM)
I think 20 is a good spot, after Rodon not a lot of proven guys

 

adding Adams and Micker, can that be reasons enuf??? i just don't know, i don't think so.

 

next yr, the sox system is going to get hammered when Rodon is not listed there.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 08:39 AM)
adding Adams and Micker, can that be reasons enuf??? i just don't know, i don't think so.

 

next yr, the sox system is going to get hammered when Rodon is not listed there.

 

We could have said the same about it losing Abreu, EJ, who many liked as a prospect, and Semien.

 

The draft can hold surprises and other players stocks can shoot up (Especially Adams and Hawkins)

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Don't forget the ascension of Montas/Danish/Micah Johnson....

 

Plus, odds are VERY high we replace Carlos Rodon with another high impact collegiate pitcher with tremendous upside, so we definitely belong in that teens range....Law had us, what, 14th or so? 12th?

 

It was significantly higher than any rating we'd seen on the minors in ages, I remember that much.

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 01:49 PM)
We could have said the same about it losing Abreu, EJ, who many liked as a prospect, and Semien.

 

The draft can hold surprises and other players stocks can shoot up (Especially Adams and Hawkins)

 

you are soooo right, but the talent level of Rodon, that is a hard replacement. now the development of other prospects is a given and all the surprises that will make a name for themselves. i know i am being overly pro sox in the minors talk, but wow, the talent is there. they just haven't made a name for themselves. i see huge things coming from Fry.

 

but on a bias side, i still wish they had drafted 1 of the 2 catchers that was drafted in that rnd. aside from that, Fry, in his profile reminds me of Gio.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 01:52 PM)
Don't forget the ascension of Montas/Danish/Micah Johnson....

 

Plus, odds are VERY high we replace Carlos Rodon with another high impact collegiate pitcher with tremendous upside, so we definitely belong in that teens range....Law had us, what, 14th or so? 12th?

 

It was significantly higher than any rating we'd seen on the minors in ages, I remember that much.

with all due respect, i don't see the quality of a Rodon among the pitchers this draft.

 

but like i said, a good discussion can be made because of of Mickler and Adams. but i just don't know. i guess i am being overly cautious .

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 08:57 AM)
you are soooo right, but the talent level of Rodon, that is a hard replacement. now the development of other prospects is a given and all the surprises that will make a name for themselves. i know i am being overly pro sox in the minors talk, but wow, the talent is there. they just haven't made a name for themselves. i see huge things coming from Fry.

 

but on a bias side, i still wish they had drafted 1 of the 2 catchers that was drafted in that rnd. aside from that, Fry, in his profile reminds me of Gio.

 

The final goal isn't organizational rankings. It is cranking out cheap major league talent. If Rodon graduates and is half as good as he can be, I will be perfectly happy with drop in our organizational rankings.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 02:03 PM)
The final goal isn't organizational rankings. It is cranking out cheap major league talent. If Rodon graduates and is half as good as he can be, I will be perfectly happy with drop in our organizational rankings.

 

a very good end results..... however at some time, this system will get to a point that it will level off. however that is not the time yet..... however i do love the amount of pitching prospects that the sox have....

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 08:57 AM)
you are soooo right, but the talent level of Rodon, that is a hard replacement. now the development of other prospects is a given and all the surprises that will make a name for themselves. i know i am being overly pro sox in the minors talk, but wow, the talent is there. they just haven't made a name for themselves. i see huge things coming from Fry.

 

but on a bias side, i still wish they had drafted 1 of the 2 catchers that was drafted in that rnd. aside from that, Fry, in his profile reminds me of Gio.

 

Fry was the first name out of Buddy Bell's mouth when I asked him about a "breakout" player. He is being overshadowed by Rodon and Adams but a good one to keep your eye on.

 

Also I think we will see a few of the Latin guys emerge onto prospects lists in 2015 and 2016. Luis Martinez, Micker Adolfo, Amado Nunez, Jhoandro Alfaro, and Felix Mercedes to name a few.

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:32 AM)
Fry was the first name out of Buddy Bell's mouth when I asked him about a "breakout" player. He is being overshadowed by Rodon and Adams but a good one to keep your eye on.

 

Also I think we will see a few of the Latin guys emerge onto prospects lists in 2015 and 2016. Luis Martinez, Micker Adolfo, Amado Nunez, Jhoandro Alfaro, and Felix Mercedes to name a few.

Jace Fry was extremely impressive in his spring training appearance the other day. I dont't know if he projects as a starter or reliever, but if that performance was any indication I see him getting on the fast track.

 

As for the Latin players, I don't think most of them have even made a DSL or rookie league appearance yet, so while it will be interesting to track their development, I don't know if they'll impact the prospect lists in the immediate future.

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QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 03:26 PM)
Jace Fry was extremely impressive in his spring training appearance the other day. I dont't know if he projects as a starter or reliever, but if that performance was any indication I see him getting on the fast track.

 

As for the Latin players, I don't think most of them have even made a DSL or rookie league appearance yet, so while it will be interesting to track their development, I don't know if they'll impact the prospect lists in the immediate future.

 

you are right about the latin prospects..... but wow ..... the shear idea of some of them even becomes true.... this system will be one to watch.

 

now if they can find a prospect who could hit the ball a mile ..... that extra power hitter who will make it as a mlb power hitter.

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QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 10:26 AM)
Jace Fry was extremely impressive in his spring training appearance the other day. I dont't know if he projects as a starter or reliever, but if that performance was any indication I see him getting on the fast track.

 

As for the Latin players, I don't think most of them have even made a DSL or rookie league appearance yet, so while it will be interesting to track their development, I don't know if they'll impact the prospect lists in the immediate future.

 

A few of them are starting to creep into the lowest levels of the minors.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 10:31 AM)
now if they can find a prospect who could hit the ball a mile ..... that extra power hitter who will make it as a mlb power hitter.

That's Micker Adolfo. His raw tools, like his power, is the reason he's been showing up on our top prospects lists pretty much since the moment we signed him.

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QUOTE (southside hitman @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:32 AM)
Also I think we will see a few of the Latin guys emerge onto prospects lists in 2015 and 2016. Luis Martinez, Micker Adolfo, Amado Nunez, Jhoandro Alfaro, and Felix Mercedes to name a few.

 

I was going to say that. I think the top ten prospects in 2016 will be headlined by Adams, Adolfo and whoever they draft at 8 this year. I do think Martinez is a sure fire top ten prospect next year, I have him at thay 10 to 15 range.

 

Alfaro and Nunez will be ranked as well but I dont know about top ten. I really like last year's international signing class.

 

You heard it here, Micker Adolfo will be one of the best prospects in all of bsseball in due time.

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QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 04:41 PM)
That's Micker Adolfo. His raw tools, like his power, is the reason he's been showing up on our top prospects lists pretty much since the moment we signed him.

 

before i admit to that, i need to see some of those result of hrs.

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 04:58 PM)
I was going to say that. I think the top ten prospects in 2016 will be headlined by Adams, Adolfo and whoever they draft at 8 this year. I do think Martinez is a sure fire top ten prospect next year, I have him at thay 10 to 15 range.

 

Alfaro and Nunez will be ranked as well but I dont know about top ten. I really like last year's international signing class.

 

You heard it here, Micker Adolfo will be one of the best prospects in all of bsseball in due time.

i will very much include Fry, before i see Adolfo get higher in the rank. that is unless Mickler comes out hitting. he is what 18..... no need to add anymore pressure on him.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:31 AM)
you are right about the latin prospects..... but wow ..... the shear idea of some of them even becomes true.... this system will be one to watch.

 

now if they can find a prospect who could hit the ball a mile ..... that extra power hitter who will make it as a mlb power hitter.

 

 

Keon Barnum

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:58 AM)
I was going to say that. I think the top ten prospects in 2016 will be headlined by Adams, Adolfo and whoever they draft at 8 this year. I do think Martinez is a sure fire top ten prospect next year, I have him at thay 10 to 15 range.

 

Alfaro and Nunez will be ranked as well but I dont know about top ten. I really like last year's international signing class.

 

You heard it here, Micker Adolfo will be one of the best prospects in all of bsseball in due time.

 

 

If Montas and/or Danish take the next step/s, they're banging on the door already of Top 100 MilB prospect-hood.

 

You've got guys like Trey M. and Engel/May with some interesting tool sets.

 

And, of course, Tim Anderson goes into the season with a lot to prove defensively...with a possible position change on the horizon.

 

 

 

Mr. Courtney Hawkins, this is your year to shine. If Hawkins, Barnum and Adolfo all impress, that will be the first time three legit power hitting prospects (and no, guys like Andy Wilkins weren't true prospects)...have been found (together) in our system in ages, not to mention interesting bats like Thompson and Matt Davidson with the possibility of a late surprise.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 09:11 PM)
If Montas and/or Danish take the next step/s, they're banging on the door already of Top 100 MilB prospect-hood.

 

You've got guys like Trey M. and Engel/May with some interesting tool sets.

 

And, of course, Tim Anderson goes into the season with a lot to prove defensively...with a possible position change on the horizon.

 

 

 

Mr. Courtney Hawkins, this is your year to shine. If Hawkins, Barnum and Adolfo all impress, that will be the first time three legit power hitting prospects (and no, guys like Andy Wilkins weren't true prospects)...have been found (together) in our system in ages, not to mention interesting bats like Thompson and Matt Davidson with the possibility of a late surprise.

 

nice ...... real nice.

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QUOTE (LDF @ Apr 1, 2015 -> 03:24 PM)
i will very much include Fry, before i see Adolfo get higher in the rank. that is unless Mickler comes out hitting. he is what 18..... no need to add anymore pressure on him.

 

By far the highest ceiling in the system. I wouldnt put Fry before Micker because I see Fry as a reliever.

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QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 2, 2015 -> 12:05 AM)
By far the highest ceiling in the stsystem. I wouldnt put Fry before Micker because I see Fry as a reliever.

 

he may well be, b/c the mlb having no faith in pitcher under 6'0 ft...... now if he was 6'3+ it would be a different story.

 

fry sinker / slider lhp. when he was drafted by the sox, he was a 87-89 fb, curve and changeup with his best pitch is the changeup. now after last yr he ranges in the low 90's, talk is 93-91 fb. but he is still a generous 6'0 ft tall.

 

but he does know how to pitch and in different situations. i like what i read..... but... well i already stated my but... so i won't belabor the point.

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