brett05 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12603943...n-disabled-list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 ESPN Stats & Info @ESPNStatsInfo 3h3 hours ago Justin Verlander (headed to DL) has had declining WAR the last 3 seasons 2014 1.1 2013 4.6 2012 7.8 – 1st among SP 2011 8.4 – 3rd among SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...ching/70836706/ More concerning to them is Rondon's tendonitis....comeback from TJ. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tige...eason/70806524/ Verlander must perform, no excuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 06:20 AM) His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground. coupled with multiple seasons in a row going deep into the playoffs. IIRC nobody has thrown more innings than he has in the past 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 06:58 AM) coupled with multiple seasons in a row going deep into the playoffs. IIRC nobody has thrown more innings than he has in the past 5 years It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down. In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically. Edited April 3, 2015 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 QUOTE (Brian @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 06:20 AM) His decline was inevitable with the way Leyland rode him into the ground. Most pitchers dream about what Verlander did over the course of a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 06:23 AM) It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down. In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically. Actually, in the last few seasons, he has started pacing himself more. He'll throw low 90's until he's either in a high-leverage situation early, or he's deeper in the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 02:23 PM) It's not the innings, it's the intensity of the innings he tries to throw too hard too often He is one pitcher you always read about "still throwing 98 in the 8th inning." This is the type of thing that wears a pitcher down. In the past there have been discussions of pitchers hsving down years after long playoff runs. It's not the extra innigs, although it could be for some, it's the I tensity of the postseason innings after the grind of the regular season. It's like sprinting the last 365 yards after the first 26 miles of a marathon. The pitchers need to do it because the competition is better but it is hard on them physically. and i agree with you on the most part. btw, i know i would be really foolish in discussing medical ideology with you pertaining to pitchers, so i will say, i took him to be another freak of nature, pretty much like Randy Johnson. didn't threw constantly hard in almost all games until he retired? then there are other pitchers who will need surgery b/c their arm can't take that strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 5, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) Actually, in the last few seasons, he has started pacing himself more. He'll throw low 90's until he's either in a high-leverage situation early, or he's deeper in the game. This has only been the last couple. How many years was it before though? I know it's still not a common thought but I still think this overthrowing is the primary cause of elbow issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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