chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 06:34 PM) Ventura bunted on the road earlier in the week on the road to ATTEMPT to tie. Now on the road hes playing for the potential 14th or 15th instead of trying to preserve a tie with his closer not out there in the 9th? And seriously, I bet he didnt take Iglesias as a credible offensivee threat because he was pretty terrible last year...so why not at least take his results for a nine game stretch this year into account....when youre hitting over .400 something has to be going right and its not just complete luck or an anomaly. I need a beer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 03:20 PM) Hi-def and with the ability to slow down: http://gfycat.com/BlushingQuarterlyChrysomelid he's out He was clearly out on the replay. Alexei tagged his toe , foot even changed direction ,saw it on the Tigers feed on whitesox.com . Even the Tiger announcers said he was out and were mystified that it wasn't challenged. Loss is clearly on Robin . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 This is my first time being mad at Robin. Gotta stand up for your boys there and challenge. Right or wrong, get Alexei's back there. Now I'm pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:00 PM) He was clearly out on the replay. Alexei tagged his toe , foot even changed direction ,saw it on the Tigers feed on whitesox.com . Even the Tiger announcers said he was out and were mystified that it wasn't challenged. Loss is clearly on Robin . I'm pretty sure the vote tally against robin for not challenging is - Dick Allen's vote. If an NFL coach had made this error, yikes. Edited April 17, 2015 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:05 PM) This is my first time being mad at Robin. Gotta stand up for your boys there and challenge. Right or wrong, get Alexei's back there. Now I'm pissed. Welcome to the light! May the spirit be with you brother! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) Eh Iglesias got his hit because the infield was drawn in. That's a routine groundout otherwise. Yes, if he had walked Iglesias to put the infield back at double play depth. Iglesias is the quintessential contact guy with little pop like Carlos Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashFan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I don't like Robin's excuse that the rest of the staff and guys upstairs didn't think he made the tag. Who exactly does the buck stop with? Who is managing this team? Most importantly, why is he asking?? He has nothing to lose. Use your damn challenge! I think we have lost at least two games now because of management. You make these mistakes in your first year, not your third. I hope they don't waste this season waiting for Robin to figure things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:11 PM) Yes, if he had walked Iglesias to put the infield back at double play depth. Iglesias is the quintessential contact guy with little pop like Carlos Sanchez. I like that comp actually. At least the Tigers are smart enough to play their version. Iglesias made some slick plays today. I'm going to start pounding this Micah over Sanchez decision as it just reeks of KW's influence imo. SSS did a very good writeup on Micah the other day -- that gif of him backhanding the ball on the play ranging up the middle was cringeworthy. FWIW he's already been worth half a f***ing NEGATIVE run on the bases thanks to boneheaded pickoffs. -.1 fWAR already. Yea ultra small sample -- of total suck however. Edited April 17, 2015 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 KW said Robin Ventura had the IQ and EQ qualities of a general/military leader (upon his hiring). Leaders lead, and trust their own judgment...after all, he's the one with the loss on his record, not the Sox video review coordinator. So do what KW claims you were born to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (DashFan @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:14 PM) I don't like Robin's excuse that the rest of the staff and guys upstairs didn't think he made the tag. Who exactly does the buck stop with? Who is managing this team? Most importantly, why is he asking?? He has nothing to lose. Use your damn challenge! I think we have lost at least two games now because of management. You make these mistakes in your first year, not your third. I hope they don't waste this season waiting for Robin to figure things out. Spot on. And, as Balta reminded me, THIS IS HIS 4TH f***ING YEAR NOW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (DashFan @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) I don't like Robin's excuse that the rest of the staff and guys upstairs didn't think he made the tag. Who exactly does the buck stop with? Who is managing this team? Most importantly, why is he asking?? He has nothing to lose. Use your damn challenge! I think we have lost at least two games now because of mismanagement. You make these mistakes in your first year, not your third. I hope they don't waste this season waiting for Robin to figure things out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 WHy is all of baseball going defense first except the Sox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 06:01 PM) We'd be very angry at Alexei Ramirez for missing the tag. We'd then be angry at Robin for not walking the batter after the bunt to try to set up a possible game-saving double play. Why would you just walk one??? You should walk the next 2 so you set up a force at home or doubleplay starting at any base. Edited April 17, 2015 by SCCWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Say this wasn't the replay era of baseball. That ball beat the runner by a mile. You gotta run out there and take a s*** on the ump's shoes at a bare minimum. Pump your guys up, take away the momentum. Make your tirade last a half hour so the pen can warm up. I'm so pissed that I have to join the "Robin Sucks" club now. I'd like to run for president if it's election time ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) I'm pretty sure the vote tally against robin for not challenging is - Dick Allen's vote. If an NFL coach had made this error, yikes. And think about this which I haven't seen brought up yet. Didn't Samardzija say he wanted to get a feel for the organization before he thinks about resigning with the Sox ? He can't be getting a very positive view of the Sox at this time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I Know it's not the popular opinion, but it looked like he slid around the tag. As far as Robin goes, they could fire him tomorrow and I wouldn't lose any sleep. That being said, to assume it cost them the game, you are also assuming that they could actually score some runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoMB345 Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) I Know it's not the popular opinion, but it looked like he slid around the tag. As far as Robin goes, they could fire him tomorrow and I wouldn't lose any sleep. That being said, to assume it cost them the game, you are also assuming that they could actually score some runs. Nope: http://gfycat.com/BlushingQuarterlyChrysomelid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (TitoMB @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:46 PM) Nope: http://gfycat.com/BlushingQuarterlyChrysomelid Ok, that's a better view than the "better" view previously posted. (unless I misunderstood the poster) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 04:43 PM) I Know it's not the popular opinion, but it looked like he slid around the tag. As far as Robin goes, they could fire him tomorrow and I wouldn't lose any sleep. That being said, to assume it cost them the game, you are also assuming that they could actually score some runs. Did you see the feed from the Tigers broadcast ? You will see the tag was clear , no ifs ands or buts about it. http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/118...e-winning-rally Watch that and see the definitive view at about the 2 min. 15 second mark. Even before that if you're looking for it just watch Alexei's glove and Catellanos foot. The second he tagged him it snapped Castellanos foot and you seen dirt flying off the cleat from the foot being flexed then springing forward after the tagged was released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I made something for you guys: http://firerobinventura.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:54 PM) Did you see the feed from the Tigers broadcast ? You will see the tag was clear , no ifs ands or buts about it. http://m.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article/118...e-winning-rally Watch that and see the definitive view at about the 2 min. 15 second mark. Even before that if you're looking for it just watch Alexei's glove and Catellanos foot. The second he tagged him it snapped Castellanos foot and you seen dirt flying off the cleat from the foot being flexed then springing forward after the tagged was released. I saw it in the clip that was just posted. The other gif I saw wasn't as clear. My point was more to them ultimately losing anyway because the offense has been putrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 You're going to update that every time he does something dumb this season, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 QUOTE (daggins @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) You're going to update that every time he does something dumb this season, right? until he's fired for sure. http://firerobinventura.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chisoxt Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 What was Venture thinking of or trying to do? Save his timeouts going into the half? Its time to cut bait with this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 18, 2015 Share Posted April 18, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 17, 2015 -> 06:11 PM) Yes, if he had walked Iglesias to put the infield back at double play depth. Iglesias is the quintessential contact guy with little pop like Carlos Sanchez. No team plays back with the winning run on third and less than 2 out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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