BaconOnAStick Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 It costs more to take the train to and from the park than it does tickets right now for me. They are dirt cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 14, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) It's not about money. They have the cheapest tickets in the city. I saw Chris Sale vs Max Scherzer for $7 last season. and that is great.... can you or anyone imagine what is open now. the window of opportunity, it is there. it is not totally closed. fixed the radio contract, a full blitz of commercials for the summer of fun with the sox baseball, promote the family nite with the continue cheap ticket prices. sing the praise of the stars on the team. make a couple of spanish commercials featuring the spanish players for spanish tv. have those nites of father and son overniting at the park, i don't know, wasn't it several yrs ago they did that?? for me, do a live telecast for a cost of $1. on the draft and a limited amount to watch it in one of the rooms at the park. i don't know what else. but go out and put a full court press to get those fans. help this team fan base. this is just me and my rant. Edited May 16, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ May 14, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) and that is great.... can you or anyone imagine what is open now. the window of opportunity it there. it is not totally closed. fixed the radio contract, a full blitz of commercials for the summer of fun with the sox baseball, promote the family nite with the continue cheap ticket prices. sing the praise of the stars on the team. make a couple of spanish commercials featuring the spanish players for spanish tv. have those nites of father and son overniting at the park, i don't know, wasn't it several yrs ago they did that?? for me, do a live telecast for a cost of $1. and a limited amount to watch it in one of the rooms at the park. i don't know what else. but go out and put a full court press to get those fans. help this team fan base. this is just me and my rant. I just don't think any of that matters. The team needs to win consistently and even then it may not matter. Honestly, I kind of like being able to drive up there on a Tuesday night knowing it won't be full. Your ideas are good ones, don't get me wrong, I think Brooks Boyer and their marketing dept are pretty good though anyway. They need to win baseball games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 14, 2015 -> 03:00 PM) I just don't think any of that matters. The team needs to win consistently and even then it may not matter. Honestly, I kind of like being able to drive up there on a Tuesday night knowing it won't be full. Your ideas are good ones, don't get me wrong, I think Brooks Boyer and their marketing dept are pretty good though anyway. They need to win baseball games. you are 100% correct on the winning. i am just saying, this team will turn it around. whether they will become a payoff team is another point. that is b/c of the awful beginning. but i still think the hype of this team is what i am thinking on building on. the time of doing little and letting the team bring in the hype is not the only way to address the attendance. a passive aggressive approach this summer. help build that hype. this team will turn it around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 The marketing is easier and always looks better when the team is winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 14, 2015 Share Posted May 14, 2015 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 14, 2015 -> 07:57 PM) The marketing is easier and always looks better when the team is winning. very much true. but it is great when the team is avg and there is a smart marketing. help promote the product, that is if the team is good to market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 QUOTE (LDF @ May 14, 2015 -> 04:55 PM) very much true. but it is great when the team is avg and there is a smart marketing. help promote the product, that is if the team is good to market. True but Great Team/Awful Marketing is always better than Awful Team/Great Marketing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 15, 2015 Share Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 15, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) True but Great Team/Awful Marketing is always better than Awful Team/Great Marketing very true in what you wrote, great counter. but let me ask you, is this a generalize statement or is there something you are not mentioning about this team? i am a little confuse. sorry. also there is a caveat to that, this team may not be great, but it is a good team with freaking lousy marketing. only 1 commercial this yr that came out that was great. the one with Jose A promoting the season for the sox. btw, do not do any silly commercials. 1 silly one will ruin all the hard work that has been done. Edited May 16, 2015 by LDF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2015 -> 06:20 PM) They've made MUCH more of a concerted effort in recent years to show appreciation for the fans, but it feels like "too little, too late." It's only when they were starting to get desperate, dropped dynamic pricing, realized they couldn't get shut out on Sundays and started dropping prices around the board, but by then the product on the field wasn't an easy sell no matter what the ticket price. The funny thing to me is that over all these years, I've always felt the only truly successful marketing (other than the giveaways) has been the weekend fireworks games. All of those other promotions, like Dog Day and Elvis Night, were just window dressing and copies of what numerous minor league teams had already invented and been doing successfully on a small-scale basis for years. It's also little things. They never had a toll-free number for tickets, since I was in middle school. Most MLB teams treated their fans with more respect than forcing them to pay money to call to buy tickets. Maybe they can't do Thirsty Thursdays and Two for Tuesdays (because of the fear of ruining the family atmosphere), but going back to some of the discount (Mon-Thur) day/night promotions (Pepsi) and dollar dogs/Buck Nights or even "bundling" really good food offers with the tickets (like the A's do) couldn't do anything but help. 1-866-SOX-GAME Edited May 16, 2015 by ewokpelts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 QUOTE (ewokpelts @ May 16, 2015 -> 08:11 AM) 1-866-SOX-GAME When did that start? It definitely wasnt in the 80s or 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The same time all the other teams that use Ticketmaster received a toll free number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 http://espn.go.com/mlb/attendance Second sellout of the season boosts the average to 21,498...but still stuck in 27th place. We might be able to pass Oakland, Atlanta and Minnesota. Houston, probably not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 (edited) http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...ttendance.shtml White Sox have the 9th highest attendance (per game) increase in the majors so far in 2015 despite being the 2nd worst team in the AL, and the worst statistically. Seattle and San Diego have had very active off-seasons in the last two cycles. Oakland, Cleveland, Washington and Pittsburgh were either playoff teams or had strong playoff aspirations. Finally, the Mets had all that young pitching, and Harvey returning back from TJ surgery. Interestingly enough, the Rangers, Phillies, Braves, Rockies, Rays and Twins were all in the 2nd-5th year of rebuilding cycles. Can we say that all of them, along with Angels (they made the playoffs, were expected to win the division again, have the best player in baseball, etc.) and Yankees fans....are "fairweather/bandwagon" fans? Are Miami and Arizona fans too impatient for winning teams? Edited May 27, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 27, 2015 -> 08:20 AM) http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/...ttendance.shtml White Sox have the 9th highest attendance (per game) increase in the majors so far in 2015 despite being the 2nd worst team in the AL, and the worst statistically. Seattle and San Diego have had very active off-seasons in the last two cycles. Oakland, Cleveland, Washington and Pittsburgh were either playoff teams or had strong playoff aspirations. Finally, the Mets had all that young pitching, and Harvey returning back from TJ surgery. Interestingly enough, the Rangers, Phillies, Braves, Rockies, Rays and Twins were all in the 2nd-5th year of rebuilding cycles. Can we say that all of them, along with Angels (they made the playoffs, were expected to win the division again, have the best player in baseball, etc.) and Yankees fans....are "fairweather/bandwagon" fans? Are Miami and Arizona fans too impatient for winning teams? this is a great find on attendance. maybe it will add to the mix that of the attendance argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The White Sox drew 90,000 this past weekend against the Twins. The SRO game for PK certainly helped. It was also the first weekend where the weather was decent. The White Sox were expected to draw 2 million this year. If the team keeps losing it won't do that number. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Todays Chicago Crain Business said the White Sox expect to draw 1.9 million this 2015 season. That's a increase of 250,000 0ver 2014. If the team keeps winning I would like to think they will draw over 2 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 QUOTE (WBWSF @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 08:07 AM) Todays Chicago Crain Business said the White Sox expect to draw 1.9 million this 2015 season. That's a increase of 250,000 0ver 2014. If the team keeps winning I would like to think they will draw over 2 million. And in case anyone was seriously wondering, this is exactly why the rebuild was pushed up a year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The bottom line will also be helped by 3 August weekend games vs. an improving Cubs team, as opposed to two weeknight May games against a similarily bad Cubs team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 08:02 AM) And in case anyone was seriously wondering, this is exactly why the rebuild was pushed up a year or two. Except I'm going to guess last year's team will end up being the much more profitable one. They're going to need to average 24,475 from here on out to get to 1.9 million. That's really pushing it if they continue to play around 2-5 games under .500. Edited June 12, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 08:06 AM) The bottom line will also be helped by 3 August weekend games vs. an improving Cubs team, as opposed to two weeknight May games against a similarily bad Cubs team. Yeah, that, Konerko Day and transplanted Tigers' fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I would expect the Kansas City games to have high attendance. When the Royals played the Cubs I saw Royals fans everywhere in the city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Does that projected figure include our playoff games this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanOfCorn Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 QUOTE (lord chas @ Jun 12, 2015 -> 09:17 AM) I would expect the Kansas City games to have high attendance. When the Royals played the Cubs I saw Royals fans everywhere in the city Maybe the Sox should ban ticket sales to anyone with a Missouri address and not allow them to wear KC jerseys in the boxes or 200 level. /sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I am surprised that Chris Sale is not a draw. I saw this week that he did not impact attendance in the Houston series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian26 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) I am surprised that Chris Sale is not a draw. I saw this week that he did not impact attendance in the Houston series. There was a Blackhawks game that night and storms that caused two rain delays. I didn't even watch the game on TV that night let alone go to the Cell. Just amazing nobody would consider that before making a statement like "Chris Sale isn't a draw." Edited June 12, 2015 by Brian26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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