iamshack Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:43 PM) I'm afraid it might not be a matter of patience, but just actual pitch recognition and/or "baseball IQ." I think that was the same issue with Viciedo, and it's really a much more serious problem, because I'm not sure that a simple change in approach can fix it. It's really hard to tell from a fan's perspective, obviously, whether or not a guy is really trying to change. But if he just can't recognize the cues/pick up the spin in time, he's doomed to mediocrity even though he's so physically gifted otherwise. At the beginning of the season I really thought maybe a light had gone on somewhere between last year and now...his PAs actually seemed better to me. I was thinking to myself, has he gotten better at laying off pitches or will it just take a few weeks for the pitchers to adjust (why they seemed to forget how to pitch him at the beginning of the season, I don't know)? But it seems as though they have adjusted. He's back to looking like crap again and swinging at crap again. I agree, he reminds me a lot of Dayan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 08:44 PM) At the beginning of the season I really thought maybe a light had gone on somewhere between last year and now...his PAs actually seemed better to me. I was thinking to myself, has he gotten better at laying off pitches or will it just take a few weeks for the pitchers to adjust (why they seemed to forget how to pitch him at the beginning of the season, I don't know)? But it seems as though they have adjusted. He's back to looking like crap again and swinging at crap again. I agree, he reminds me a lot of Dayan. no offense, but i truly hope you are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/591704495001841664 He went to the Robin Ventura School of Sound Bites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Jeff Arnold @JeffArnold_ Chris Sale wouldn't confirm or deny that he tried to get into the Royals clubhouse in the 8th inning after being ejected: "It's in the past" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'm not gonna read 18 pages to find out...any suspensions yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) I'm not gonna read 18 pages to find out...any suspensions yet? No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 11m11 minutes ago Samardzija says he got caught up one emotion of it all. Would do it different if he had the chanc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 08:56 PM) I'm not gonna read 18 pages to find out...any suspensions yet? those 18 pages are great reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 5m5 minutes ago After 5 p.m. in NYC. MLB not expected to hand out White Sox-Royals punishments today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 How long are the appeals processes these days? They used to be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Well the KC player that got suspended last week for 5 games is still playing and has not served his suspension. If that tells ya anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) How long are the appeals processes these days? They used to be ridiculous. Long enough that I think people still drop them to time suspensions in a way that helps the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 04:27 PM) He appealed... So they sustained it? That's complete and utter s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I didn't realize Herrera had appealed and was shocked at first when I saw him in last night, although why wouldn't he appeal? Just sucked seeing him in there against the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) Personal attack. Suspend yourself please. I find all of this a bit rich. Someone who has been around here since 2013 calling out fair weather fans... I guess listening or watching 162 games a year from China when 30% of aforementioned games begin at 1-5 a.m. Constitutes a fair weather fan. He is welcome to track every single post here, at WSI or even chisox.com since baseball message boards began, since the days of ncorgbl and sat46. He wont find a single one at any other team's board, especially the Royals. Dont understand this WSI groupthink/sheepthink type of mentality...thats why their moderators were always likened to Nazi Germany SS or Gestapo. I actually love that the moderators here have some personality, like Balta, especially his passionate political beliefs...like I used to hold in my teens and twenties. Some really smart guys...that many of us dont always agree with but at least we respect their opinions and their underlying reasons for those opinions. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-...t-hell-out-team I suggest he should call out Adam Eaton, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/brawl-...-sox-look-spark Hope there's actually some type of plan or strategy for the rest of the season that goes beyond "hoping." Needs to be more belief...certainty...and less maybe. Didnt realize Tyler was such an enforcer there he scared half the Royals away single-handedly. http://www.csnchicago.com/video_content_ty...-against-royals Video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 05:10 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/brawl-...-sox-look-spark Hope there's actually some type of plan or strategy for the rest of the season that goes beyond "hoping." Needs to be more belief...certainty...and less maybe. Didnt realize Tyler was such an enforcer there he scared half the Royals away single-handedly. http://www.csnchicago.com/video_content_ty...-against-royals Video I saw that and thought atta boy Tyler. I don't know who it was, but someone was ready to swing at him blindly and Tyler saw him at the last second and ran at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 03:55 PM) Jeff Arnold @JeffArnold_ Chris Sale wouldn't confirm or deny that he tried to get into the Royals clubhouse in the 8th inning after being ejected: "It's in the past" Yeah pretty clear he did and the Sox are trying to keep it quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 05:44 PM) Yeah pretty clear he did and the Sox are trying to keep it quiet not a good look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) Yeah pretty clear he did and the Sox are trying to keep it quiet So disappointing. He has no one to blame but himself if he misses a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Dan hayes has a tweet that Rios helped play peacemaker. Maybe the greatest contribution he has ever made to the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 05:54 PM) not a good look. They went so far as to tell staffers to keep quiet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 09:45 PM) No not yet. He is available until the appeal process happens. I don't know when that it is but it is typically done via skype so it shouldn't take too long. He is hoping the MLB reduces it and MLB has to decide whether to uphold or reduce it. if i remember correctly and that is unless it has change, doesn't the player have the yr when to decide to do the suspension?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:10 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/brawl-...-sox-look-spark Hope there's actually some type of plan or strategy for the rest of the season that goes beyond "hoping." Needs to be more belief...certainty...and less maybe. Didnt realize Tyler was such an enforcer there he scared half the Royals away single-handedly. i never realize how much of a big boy he is. i too would think twice if i saw anger in his face coming at me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 10:55 PM) Dan hayes has a tweet that Rios helped play peacemaker. Maybe the greatest contribution he has ever made to the Sox. that is a first... i respect him for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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