ptatc Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 07:13 AM) Yep, two for Samardzija as well. Obviously MLB is going to make an example out of Ventura this time around...no way around that. "This game is emotional, and it seems to follow them around," Sox manager Robin Ventura said. "It has happened often enough. Everybody gets emotional." www.chicagotribune.com As they should. I don't recall Samardzija yelling at other teams or throwing at their heads. What else has he done this year that you consider 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSox05 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I watched that video on MLB of Ventura almost getting into a fight with Mike Trout. At first Trout was like what is this dude doing, but when he crossed home plate he was pretty pissed at Ventura. Ventura wanted no part of that. Ventura is that dude that starts a fight and then hides behind his big friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:28 PM) I watched that video on MLB of Ventura almost getting into a fight with Mike Trout. At first Trout was like what is this dude doing, but when he crossed home plate he was pretty pissed at Ventura. Ventura wanted no part of that. Ventura is that dude that starts a fight and then hides behind his big friend. Ventura does this showoff leg kick when he throws hard and Trout put it right back at his face. Karma at its best. Yost's interview of course was a lot of "I didnt see anything" and "he pitches with emotion." Just watch when he plunked Lawrie, he walks towards him for no reason while Lawrie just stares at first base and walks down the line. He's a punk. Edited April 24, 2015 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (ptatc @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:26 AM) As they should. I don't recall Samardzija yelling at other teams or throwing at their heads. What else has he done this year that you consider 2? Hitting Cain intentionally the first series of the seaon. This all goes back to last year and him getting after Cain and Ventura when he played for the A's. There's clearly more than meets the eye going on in terms of the backstory with those three...and the Samardzija also getting after Christian Colon from the dugout last night Edited April 24, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:47 PM) Hitting Cain intentionally the first series of the seaon. This all goes back to last year and him getting after Cain and Ventura when he played for the A's. There's clearly more than meets the eye going on in terms of the backstory with those three...and the Samardzija also getting after Christian Colon from the dugout last night Maybe the pitch to Cain "slipped" like the 100 mph fastball Herrera threw behind Lawrie's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...le19382550.html This is some pretty hilarious stuff on Lawrie...Pujols, also, isn't backing him up. I will say this: The Star adheres to a strict policy on sourcing, and discourages reporters from utilizing anonymous voices to criticize people. So I am unable to relay the general assessment of Lawrie as a player I heard from various scouts and executives over the past few days. But, man, some of these opinions were hilarious. Scouts know how to talk. Lawrie is 25. He has never played more than 125 games in a big-league season. He has never played in the postseason. He has been traded twice already in his career. So, from the Kansas City perspective, his critiques of their leadership void may ring hollow. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...l#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...l#storylink=cpy Edited April 24, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:47 PM) Hitting Cain intentionally the first series of the seaon. This all goes back to last year and him getting after Cain and Ventura when he played for the A's. There's clearly more than meets the eye going on in terms of the backstory with those three...and the Samardzija also getting after Christian Colon from the dugout last night While I don't disagree with the "More there than we know"...it's also odd how it took Samardzija like 3 minutes before he really went after a guy. That suggests to me it was something said right there that pushed over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) While I don't disagree with the "More there than we know"...it's also odd how it took Samardzija like 3 minutes before he really went after a guy. That suggests to me it was something said right there that pushed over the edge. Yeah, I saw it later at a different angle. Cain told Samardzija to go f*** himself or something like that (they blurred it out), then Samardzija charged him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 11:58 AM) Maybe the pitch to Cain "slipped" like the 100 mph fastball Herrera threw behind Lawrie's head. The question wasn't about Herrera. It was what Samardzija did earlier in the season...before last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:14 PM) After laboring through this game in person last night, I can finally talk about it. That was a tough, tough, loss. Felt something fierce at Avi for not stepping up. His approach is still entirely flawed. He was taking huge hacks when he just had to get the ball in play. I'd like to see Shuck get the start in RF tonight after that dismal display. I was four rows behind the Royals dugout and the only audible word from that fight was "f***." TV didn't really give a good angle (from either KC/Chicago broadcasts) but the Sox were the first to leave the dugout. Sale was first out and Samardzija a few feet behind him charging right when Eaton and Ventura started converging. Maybe I am a meatball because I played but I love seeing fight from our 1-2 punch. I'd feel so different if we won but it was a great game. I am worried about Samardzija getting a 10 game suspension. We can't handle that without off days/extra roster spots. I have to come he conclusion that Samardzija is just that dude who f***s the humble main character's ex girlfriend in beginning of a '90s movie. I love to have him, but I'd hate him if I were a fan of another team. I hate him as a person but I like him on our team. If he misses two start Rodon will take them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...le19380393.html Very competent Royals' columnist taking Ventura to task...saying that enough is enough, and, with Shields and Ibanez gone, some of the other veterans and/or Yost are going to have to get him under control (besides Bonifacio in one of his bigger contributions this year). Edited April 24, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:03 PM) While I don't disagree with the "More there than we know"...it's also odd how it took Samardzija like 3 minutes before he really went after a guy. That suggests to me it was something said right there that pushed over the edge. yeah, something was said or done in the scrum that ignited him after the initial Eaton incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 12:17 PM) I hate him as a person but I like him on our team. If he misses two start Rodon will take them. Hes been that same exact character ever since he played for Notre Dame...so pretty much hated by half of America before he ever stepped onto a professional baseball diamond. And some traditionalists just dont like professional athletes with outlandish hair, either. Dayton Moore addresses all the issues popping up this season... The Royals have been hit with 17 pitches, a number which is tied with Texas for the most in bas eball. They also play with a brashness and exuberance that could be construed as off-putting by opponents. “They love to play,” Moore said. “They play with passion. But there’s a right way and a wrong way to do things as a professional. Our guys realize that. Now you have to go out and do it.” Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...l#storylink=cpy Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-colum...l#storylink=cpy Edited April 24, 2015 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) I have to come he conclusion that Samardzija is just that dude who f***s the humble main character's ex girlfriend in beginning of a '90s movie. I love to have him, but I'd hate him if I were a fan of another team. Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. I have two very good friends from Valpo who are both huge Cubs fans and it's absolutely killing them that he's on the Sox now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 While I am all for teammates sticking up for each other, I have long thought that if the league really wanted to stop fights, automatic suspension, no appeal for ANYONE and EVERYONE that leaves the dugout or bullpen for a fight. if teams have to forfeit games, oh well. Then the batter has to think twice before charging a pitcher. Do I really want to go after this guy when he will have 8 other teammates on the filed to help him? Hmmm. Now you may think this gives the pitcher an advantage, and it sort of does, but the same goes your the other teams pitcher as well. What Eaton should have done when Ventura yelled FU at him is just stopped, pointed at him and laughed. Just mock him for his childish behavior right there, loudly. And then make sure to let everyone know how much of a childish ass he was at every opportunity. Shame is a powerful motivator. And feel free to talk smack to him next game as well, perhaps inquire if he learned any new words since the last meeting or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 07:22 PM) Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. ND football and Cubs pitcher equals the ideal villain for many Sox fans. Let's not forget Hawk talking all sorts of trash about him after he drilled PK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 02:24 PM) ND football and Cubs pitcher equals the ideal villain for many Sox fans. Let's not forget Hawk talking all sorts of trash about him after he drilled PK. Plus Valpo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:21 PM) Hes been that same exact character ever since he played for Notre Dame...so pretty much hated by half of America before he ever stepped onto a professional baseball diamond. And some traditionalists just dont like professional athletes with outlandish hair, either. I know him personally and thats where my dislike stems from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. I have family that live in Valpo and my family are huge ND fans lol. QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:25 PM) I know him personally and thats where my dislike stems from. I know/knew Samardzija personally as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 After some reflection, I'm just angry about this whole thing today. I'm angry at Eaton for apparently instigating a shouting match, I'm angry at Shark and Sale for being loose cannons, I'm angry Avi couldn't pull the trigger or lay off some questionable pitches, I'm angry about our f***ing lack of execution with runner on 2nd, 0 out in extra innings. We couldn't even effectively get him over. Most of all, what I'm angry about is Robin Ventura's "things have happened before with this team" comment about KC. What makes me particularly angry is that there is absolutely no accountability and there's no fire from this manager. I want to see some f***ing EMOTION about this loss. You're at home against a contending division rival, a bench clearing brawl happens, five players are ejected including two of your three best starters in an extraordinarily important divisional series that will largely decide how the next month may go - and your apparent f***ing response as a manager is "well, what CAN you do?" I want a closed door meeting - that should come from Robin. I want a manager calling out HIS OWN players for their lack of DISCIPLINE. I want a manager doing ANYTHING to light a fire under this team which has a total lack of cohesion. We need a CHANGE in this department. WHY do we have this manager? I like Robin as a player (god I'm tired of that qualification). I've seen NOTHING from him that he adds ANYTHING to this team in the management department, and the response AFTER THIS - an important f***ing home game against a division rival that we SHOULD have won - is INFURIATING. These types of games are the difference between 75 and 90 wins, folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:22 PM) Valpo and Notre Dame. Bout sums it up for me. And the Cubs? Yeah, there goes my lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:31 PM) I have family that live in Valpo and my family are huge ND fans lol. I know/knew Samardzija personally as well. I'm sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:32 PM) I'm sorry. Lol, honestly, what's so bad about Valpo? I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Apr 24, 2015 -> 01:34 PM) Lol, honestly, what's so bad about Valpo? I like it. Mostly the people that live there. It is a pompus and arrogant town with no real good reason to be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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