Texsox Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:18 PM) Some terrible stuff here: I'd argue if there was any killing it's the driver that caused it. I wonder if there is any case law that covers this. I can't believe this kind of killing happens very often. I'm trying to imagine a case where this has happened. Perhaps driving off the road and having an accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Prosecutor has laid out a timeline on what happened: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baltimore...-events-n352096 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 1, 2015 -> 05:42 PM) Prosecutor has laid out a timeline on what happened: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/baltimore...-events-n352096 According to Google Maps, the location where he was arrested is a 3 minute drive from the police station where he was booked. That ride took 45 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ May 1, 2015 -> 12:33 PM) You completely missed the point of the article in favor of writing out gibberish, again. No, my point was perfectly valid if you think about it...by conflating these other statistics (lets say accidental drownings) it makes the police incidents more innocuous. Its a dishonest use of stats to cover up the problem, one that is real and genuine no matter how they try to spin it or hide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:45 PM) According to Google Maps, the location where he was arrested is a 3 minute drive from the police station where he was booked. That ride took 45 minutes. Good luck, officers. There should be a charge "wasting taxpayer dollars/dereliction of duties." Seems like they had nothing better to do with their time than taunt this guy endlessly, like a game...like college kids picking on the homeless and beating them to death for a cheap thrill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 1, 2015 -> 08:49 PM) Just like with Eric Garner, the guy who filmed Fred Gray's arrest has been arrested. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/am...t-10217973.html i wonder if this is like harassing a potential witness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) Are the 6 cops charged all white? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 1, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) The specific case has nothing to do with race. It's about abusive police officers killing a guy. I know but the rioting over all the other issues has everything to do with class/race. QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ May 2, 2015 -> 03:24 AM) <!--quoteo(post=3151276:date=May 1, 2015 -> 03:11 PM:name=Dick Allen)-->QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) <!--quotec-->Are the 6 cops charged all white? No. So three of the six are African American. Only the minority columnists will tackle that part of the issue, you best believe that. They will be free to write about it; not the white columnists if they want to continue to be employed. Too much of a risky subject to tackle unless you are African American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Half of the cops are black. That is just insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Welp, that's why they call it institutional racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ May 2, 2015 -> 02:24 AM) <!--quoteo(post=3151276:date=May 1, 2015 -> 03:11 PM:name=Dick Allen)-->QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) <!--quotec-->Are the 6 cops charged all white? No. are 2 of the white guys twins???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 2, 2015 -> 12:04 AM) Half of the cops are black. That is just insane. It looks like the 3 white cops arrested him, the first guy in the series of pictures drove him around. The two other cops knew he needed medical help and decided he wasn't worth the paperwork. There's two large issues at hand here. The first is the cops arresting him without a legitimate reason. The second is the cops doing the rough ride and neglecting to get him medical help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) Im pretty sure one is Hispanic from the names released...the one in the upper LH corner. Edited May 2, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ May 2, 2015 -> 12:12 AM) Welp, that's why they call it institutional racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Teen who broke patrol car window faces higher bail than cop charged with murder http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/teen-faces-high...-accused-murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 2, 2015 -> 07:49 AM) Teen who broke patrol car window faces higher bail than cop charged with murder http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/teen-faces-high...-accused-murder Probably due to priors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 http://earhustle411.com/tag/allen-bullock/ First charges as an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 02:09 PM) http://earhustle411.com/tag/allen-bullock/ First charges as an adult. And Al Sharpton is still not in jail for multi-million dollar tax evasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 2, 2015 -> 01:52 PM) And Al Sharpton is still not in jail for multi-million dollar tax evasion. These are related how? And Enron hasnt recompensated their former employees for billions of dollars in lost retirement monies caused by mismanagement and illegal accounting/stock manipulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) These are related how? And Enron hasnt recompensated their former employees for billions of dollars in lost retirement monies caused by mismanagement and illegal accounting/stock manipulation. Just pointing that it isn't always about race, just in case. And Enron isn't alone, yo uahve almost every lawmaker in just about every state for the last 30 years that have been mismanaging and appropriating retirement funds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 2, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) Just pointing that it isn't always about race, just in case. And Enron isn't alone, yo uahve almost every lawmaker in just about every state for the last 30 years that have been mismanaging and appropriating retirement funds. And all those lawmakers were also African-American? Like the decidedly non-minority Fortune 500 CEO's who are never prosecuted (see Anthony Mozilo, Countrywide Loans)? Edited May 2, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 2, 2015 -> 04:57 PM) Just pointing that it isn't always about race, just in case. And Enron isn't alone, yo uahve almost every lawmaker in just about every state for the last 30 years that have been mismanaging and appropriating retirement funds. It isn't always, but how is a protester getting 500K bail when the person charged with second degree murder (who is arguably the source of this particular flare up) gets bail for half the amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 (edited) http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/opinion/...top-span-region Spot on editorial about police unions thats difficult to refute from either side of the political aisle. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/fred...ticle-1.2205747 Ranking officer in Balt case had a history of mental health problems, hospitalized at least once... Edited May 3, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Bail amounts are not purely about seriousness of charge. Prior history and flight risk are also major components, as well as financial standing and other factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 4, 2015 -> 02:46 AM) Bail amounts are not purely about seriousness of charge. Prior history and flight risk are also major components, as well as financial standing and other factors. i always thought there was no bail on murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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