maggsmaggs Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 7, 2016 -> 05:47 AM) Does the Zika virus affect Delvin Perez's draft stock? Why would it? He does not have the virus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 It's nice having a top 10 pick and be 22-10 to start the year. f***ing stoked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxfan1986 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 BA Has Ray falling to the Sox in their latest mock draft. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-2-0/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 8, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) BA Has Ray falling to the Sox in their latest mock draft. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-2-0/ AND THE PROPHECY CONTINUES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Holy s***, the draft is in a month. I need to get that day off work again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ May 7, 2016 -> 09:53 AM) Why would it? He does not have the virus. I don't know but it could make teams scared of drafting him. I'm willing to be that the teams who are looking at him, have brought it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 QUOTE (WhiteSoxfan1986 @ May 8, 2016 -> 09:40 PM) BA Has Ray falling to the Sox in their latest mock draft. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mock-draft-2-0/ Groome is getting some bad buzz leading up the draft. It's not crazy to think that he is there when the Sox pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 9, 2016 -> 02:19 AM) I don't know but it could make teams scared of drafting him. I'm willing to be that the teams who are looking at him, have brought it up. Even if he did, it's unlikely it affects his career in any way. So I would put the odds of it scaring teams away at 0.0% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Collins on ESPNU tonight. Reminded me of wieters with his swing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 (edited) https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/730138117412294656 Edited May 10, 2016 by flavum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 QUOTE (flavum @ May 10, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/730138117412294656 So as Puk falls, so does Groome. Cincinnati has been eyeing college bats too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 MLB draft is so interesting. So much less consensus. Still hoping for Ray, but I don't really know anything so I'll just buy in to whatever you guys are excited about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 My board would be at this point: 1. Puk (from my town) 2. Ray 3. Perez 4. Pint 5. Collins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 11, 2016 -> 10:12 AM) My board would be at this point: 1. Puk (from my town) 2. Ray 3. Perez 4. Pint 5. Collins At #10: Groome/Moniak/Hudson At #26: Jones, Manning, Lowe, Whitely And the second round: Alen Hansen, who's been pretty hot as of late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 QUOTE (raBBit @ May 11, 2016 -> 12:45 PM) I don't understand the love for Dakota Hudson lately. Lacks good secondary options, limited track record. I mean he tore up the cape but I wouldn't be thrilled with him at 10. I think he's just getting love because of the lack of college pitching. I'd love Perez or Ray obviously. I'd be good with Collins, Moniak, Rutherford, or Pint though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 11, 2016 Author Share Posted May 11, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (raBBit @ May 11, 2016 -> 12:45 PM) I don't understand the love for Dakota Hudson lately. Lacks good secondary options, limited track record. I mean he tore up the cape but I wouldn't be thrilled with him at 10. I think he's just getting love because of the lack of college pitching. I wouldn't completely disagree with you but I'm confident in the Sox's ability to develop arms. Edited May 11, 2016 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 How good of a spot is 10 in this draft? Is this a draft with a drop off after 3, 5, etc? Or much tougher to tell? Sorry if these are basic questions, I don't follow the draft closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 11, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) How good of a spot is 10 in this draft? Is this a draft with a drop off after 3, 5, etc? Or much tougher to tell? Sorry if these are basic questions, I don't follow the draft closely Since there is no clear definitive #1 player, the draft is weaker and rankings are all over the place. 10 is a good place to be, because since there's no consensus a player that the Sox have highly rated on their board could fall to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 9, 2016 -> 02:23 AM) Groome is getting some bad buzz leading up the draft. It's not crazy to think that he is there when the Sox pick. Which brings me to this question.... At pick #10....would you guys rather have a top 1 or 2 talent whose stock is falling right now and slides to #10, or would you rather have a guy who was a late 1st RD pick whose stock has exploded late and all the sudden becomes a top 10 pick by draft day. Which would you rather the Sox select at #10? Edited May 12, 2016 by Chilihead90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 12, 2016 Author Share Posted May 12, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 12, 2016 -> 02:42 AM) Which brings me to this question.... At pick #10....would you guys rather have a top 1 or 2 talent whose stock is falling right now and slides to #10, or would you rather have a guy who was a late 1st RD pick whose stock has exploded late and all the sudden becomes a top 10 pick by draft day. Which would you rather the Sox select at #10? Groome is sliding because of the registration incident, a lot of teams are apparently reading that as a character issue. He had a poor outing, by his standards during his first start back*, but he did strike out 6 in two innings yesterday and starts again on Monday against his school's big rival. Since I (am not a crazy person and) don't read the registration issue as a red flag against his character and read his first start back as him shaking off some rust, I would take him in a heartbeat if he's there at #10. Back to your question, in a year where there is no consensus top player, you would have to take on a case by case basis. I would feel comfortable if they took a guy who's exploding, like a Joey Wentz or Dakota Hudson than someone who was raked pretty high and stock has fallen like a Alec Hansen, who may be pitching himself back into the first round. *Joey Rose, the kid who homered off of Groome is a projected second/third round pick. Edited May 12, 2016 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 11, 2016 -> 10:42 PM) Since there is no clear definitive #1 player, the draft is weaker and rankings are all over the place. 10 is a good place to be, because since there's no consensus a player that the Sox have highly rated on their board could fall to them. If there is no clear definitive #1 player, couldn't that mean it's a stronger class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 12, 2016 -> 05:57 AM) If there is no clear definitive #1 player, couldn't that mean it's a stronger class? Yes but it isn't. Stronger class is when you're deciding between the likes of Bryant,Gray and Appel for #1. Ray/Groome/Puk aren't at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ May 12, 2016 -> 05:57 AM) If there is no clear definitive #1 player, couldn't that mean it's a stronger class? Yes but it isn't. Stronger class is when you're deciding between the likes of Bryant,Gray and Appel for #1. Ray/Groome/Puk aren't at that level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 QUOTE (staxx @ May 12, 2016 -> 07:18 AM) Yes but it isn't. Stronger class is when you're deciding between the likes of Bryant,Gray and Appel for #1. Ray/Groome/Puk aren't at that level Is this draft potentially deeper than previous ones though? Haven't really followed too much but i think I read somewhere that it's supposed to be deep. Last year I remember reading that last year's draft wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 12, 2016 Share Posted May 12, 2016 Here is Keith Law's BigBoard for the draft. They have a free trial available for insider, so figured it's ok to post? (May 18) -- but rather how I'd rank them. Each top 100 draft prospect has a player card with his scouting profile, written by Longenhagen; click on the player's name to go to it. (Some of the profiles in the second half of the top 100 don't have write-ups yet; we'll fill those in soon.) 1. Corey Ray, OF, Louisville Right now, if I had the top pick, I think I'd go with Ray, the best all-around college position player who is at worst a solid everyday left fielder with the upside of a Ray Lankford (whose name I've heard from a couple of scouts over the past year as a comp for Ray). He can hit; he can run; he has some power. Although center field, where he plays part of the time for Louisville, is a pipe dream, he could develop into a capable left fielder. I think he goes among the top three picks. 2. Jason Groome, LHP, Barnegat (New Jersey) HS Reports of Groome's demise from local media in south Jersey are greatly exaggerated; you're still looking at a tall, athletic lefty with a good delivery and a grade-70 (on the 20 to 80 scouting scale) breaking ball. I think Groome goes among the top four picks. 3. Delvin Perez, SS, International Baseball Academy (Puerto Rico) Perez has the best overall package of tools in this class -- he was named the MVP of the Excellence Tournament in Puerto Rico last week, going 12-for-21 in the event and running a 6.23-second 60-yard dash -- and won't turn 18 years old until November, but his hit tool is his least advanced, and as I've noted previously, there are questions about his maturity and work ethic. He could go as low as pick No. 8 (San Diego), depending on how the board falls. 4. Mickey Moniak, OF, La Costa Canyon HS (Carlsbad, California Moniak has improved his standing with scouts this spring by doing everything except hitting for power. He can hit, run and play center, so if he does exceed power expectations, he has the upside of a star. I don't think he'll go No. 1 overall, but I've heard he's on the Phillies' long list of candidates for that pick. 5. A.J. Puk, LHP, Florida Puk returned after missing most of two starts because of back spasms, had two good starts, then walked six batters this past weekend against Tennessee. He could go 1-1, but I think that's a reach considering that his results at Florida have never matched his stuff -- and his stuff isn't so dominant that he should be the first overall pick anyway. That said, he's clearly the best college starting pitcher prospect in the draft, so he won't slide far. 6. Braxton Garrett, LHP, Florence (Alabama) HS Garrett is a very advanced strike-thrower with a plus curveball that he can command and a solid-average fastball that will probably settle in at about a 55 grade. I've heard that the Marlins, who pick seventh, are very high on him, and I don't think he'd get much further than that as a highly polished prep arm with a bit of projection left, too. 7. Blake Rutherford, OF, Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, California) Rutherford is a highly advanced high school hitter. He's definitely headed to a corner-outfield spot and is an older high schooler at age 19, which is probably enough to push him from the top five into the 6-15 range. He has a good track record of hitting, but the swing isn't geared for big power right now. 8. Kyle Lewis, OF, Mercer Lewis could go as high as No. 2 and definitely will go in the top 10 because he's a toolsy college outfielder who should stay in center and already has plus power. He has, however, had contact issues at Mercer and in the Cape summer league. 9. Matt Manning, RHP, Sheldon HS (Sacramento) Son of former NBA player Rich Manning, Matt is a 6-foot-6 right-hander who has been up to 98 mph and shows a hard spike curveball that is good some weeks and inconsistent other weeks. He's so athletic that I'd happily roll the dice on him even though he needs quite a bit of development. 10. Nick Senzel, 3B, Tennessee Senzel is by acclamation the best college hitter in the class, but it's much more about contact than power. While he has improved his defense substantially, he's probably never going to be plus at third (though bear in mind that Nolan Arenado was probably a 45 defender at third when he was in Double-A, if not worse, and is now one of the best defenders in baseball at any position). I've heard him strongly linked to Cincinnati at No. 2, and I don't think he gets past Oakland at No. 6. 11. Nolan Jones, SS, Holy Ghost Prep (Bensalem, Pennsylvania) Jones, a shortstop now, is a big kid who's likely to move directly to third base in pro ball and could end up at first. In terms of hit/power upside, the only negative relative to a guy like Rutherford is the weaker competition he has faced in the Northeast. 12. Joey Wentz, LHP, Shawnee Mission East HS (Prairie Village, Kansas) Wentz didn't even give up a hit until his fourth outing of the year. He touches 96 mph and pitches at solid-average, with an above-average curveball and consistent strikes already. He also has some power as a first baseman, although his future is on the mound. 13. Riley Pint, RHP, St. Thomas Aquinas HS (Overland Park, Kansas) Pint was 96-100 when I saw him, and he has topped that before. He'll also show a good breaking ball one time and a good changeup another, but the concern is that he doesn't throw strikes, and I don't know how you get him to do that when his arm already works so well. He could be Justin Verlander if it all clicks -- or Brad Pennington if it doesn't. I think his market starts at the Rockies' fourth pick; it makes more sense for them to take a kid with Pint's skill set than for any other team to do so. 14. Ian Anderson, RHP, Shenendehowa HS (Clifton Park, New York) Anderson just made his first official start of the year this past Saturday after getting rained out twice and battling pneumonia early in the season. He's probably a top-10 guy on merit, but he'll pitch only a few times in front of scouts before draft meetings begin, and I imagine teams will have a hard time getting enough looks at him this month to feel confident taking him that high. 15. Forrest Whitley, RHP, Alamo Heights HS (San Antonio) Whitley bounced back nicely from a thumb injury that cost him a few starts and a controversial email sent to scouts by his father -- now the stuff of legend, it was about how he wasn't impressed by pro ball and there was no way his son would sign. He has shown clear first-round stuff, including a big fastball and a body that is already well-developed at 6-7 and 250 pounds. 16. Dakota Hudson, RHP, Mississippi State In a year when more college pitchers have seen their draft value head south than improve, Hudson has chugged right along, putting up strong numbers in the SEC with two above-average pitches. I've heard him mentioned as high as pick No. 10 and wouldn't be surprised if someone took him even higher than that given the history of college pitchers in the first round. 17. Bryan Reynolds, OF, Vanderbilt Reynolds is an unexciting pick, and you wish he struck out less often, but he does hit -- and hit for power. You're probably getting at least an everyday player in an outfield corner, which is a clear first-round pick in a draft with so few good college bats. 18. Zack Collins, C, Miami Collins can't catch, but he can hit and has power, so if a team is willing to take a college bat who is almost certain to end up at first base, he's the guy. I've heard he's in the mix for at least two teams in the top 10, including Oakland. 19. Kevin Gowdy, RHP, Santa Barbara (California) HS Gowdy, committed to UCLA, is a fastball/curveball guy with good feel to pitch and a fair amount of physical upside remaining. The Yankees are supposedly heavily on him at pick No. 18, and the Phillies are hoping to get him as an overpay at pick 42. 20. Cody Sedlock, RHP, Illinois A year after the Illini had a top-10 pick in Tyler Jay, they're back with another potential first-round arm in Sedlock, who'll show three above-average pitches but has a delivery that some scouts feel won't hold up as a starter. 21. Cal Quantrill, RHP, Stanford Quantrill had Tommy John surgery last March, hasn't pitched yet this spring and now might not pitch at all before the draft, fueling rumors he already has a deal in place with someone (such as the Padres at No. 24). 22. Alex Kirilloff, OF, Plum HS (Pittsburgh) Kirilloff is yet another corner high school bat, but the hit and power tools here seem pretty well established. He also frequently hits with a wood bat in games, as well as always taking batting practice with wood for scouts, which is particularly helpful for a hitter from a cold-weather area. 23. Jordan Sheffield, RHP, Vanderbilt I still think Sheffield ends up in relief, but he has been good as a starter for Vanderbilt despite his slight build -- showing electric stuff, including a fastball frequently up to 97 mph. 24. Anfernee Grier, OF, Auburn Grier is a poor man's Kyle Lewis (No. 8 above), a toolsy, athletic college outfielder who has performed well (.390/.470/.590 this year, .346/.407/.458 in SEC play) but strikes out too often, and scouts have noted Grier's trouble with breaking stuff. He might be a sandwich- or second-round guy in a normal draft class, but the paucity of good college bats puts him in the 20s this year. 25. Will Benson, OF, The Westminster Schools (Atlanta) Benson has a big league body and several outstanding tools, a real upside play for a team -- again, I'm looking at you, San Diego -- that wants to roll the dice on a potential star and is willing to wait, especially because Benson's biggest weakness is his swing. MLB draft prospects Nos. 26-100 26. Josh Lowe, 3B/RHP, Pope HS (Marietta, Georgia) 27. Matt Thaiss, C, Virginia 28. Hunter Bishop, OF, Junipero Serra HS (San Mateo, California) 29. Justin Dunn, RHP, Boston College 30. Carter Kieboom, 3B, Walton HS (Marietta, Georgia) 31. Corbin Burnes, RHP, St. Mary's College 32. Robert Tyler, RHP, Georgia 33. Cooper Johnson, C, Carmel Catholic HS (Mundelein, Illinois) 34. Alex Speas, RHP, McEachern HS (Powder Springs, Georgia) 35. Alec Hansen, RHP, Oklahoma 36. Anthony Kay, LHP, Connecticut 37. Jeff Belge, LHP, Henninger HS (Syracuse, New York) 38. T.J. Zeuch, RHP, Pittsburgh 39. Zack Burdi, RHP, Louisville 40. Sean Murphy, C, Wright State 41. Gavin Lux, SS, Indian Trail Academy (Kenosha, Wisconsin) 42. Jesus Luzardo, LHP, Douglas HS (Parkland, Florida) 43. Ryan Boldt, OF, Nebraska 44. Taylor Trammell, OF, Mount Paran Christian (Kennesaw, Georgia) 45. Will Craig, 1B, Wake Forest 46. Lucas Erceg, 3B, Menlo College (California) 47. Zack Jackson, RHP, Arkansas 48. Luis Curbelo, OF, Cocoa (Florida) HS 49. Bailey Clark, RHP, Duke 50. Ryan Rolison, LHP, University School of Jackson (Tennessee) 51. Eric Lauer, LHP, Kent State 52. Bo Bichette, SS, Lakewood HS (St. Petersburg, Florida) 53. Ben Rortvedt, C, Verona (Wisconsin) Area HS 54. Jared Horn, RHP, Vintage HS (Napa, California) 55. Cole Ragans, LHP, North Florida Christian (Tallahassee, Florida) 56. Chris Okey, C, Clemson 57. Connor Jones, RHP, Virginia 58. Kyle Muller, LHP, Jesuit College Prep School of Dallas 59. Dane Dunning, RHP, Florida 60. Sheldon Neuse, SS, Oklahoma 61. Brandon Marsh, OF, Buford (Georgia) HS 62. Reggie Lawson, RHP, Victor Valley HS (Victorville, California) 63. Bryson Brigman, SS, San Diego 64. Jon Duplantier, RHP, Rice University 65. Buddy Reed, OF, Florida 66. Carlos Cortes, 2B, Oviedo (Florida) HS 67. Adam Laskey, LHP, Haddon Heights (New Jersey) HS 68. Logan Shore, RHP, Florida 69. Joe Rizzo, SS/3b, Oakton HS (Vienna, Virginia) 70. A.J. Puckett, RHP, Pepperdine 71. Braeden Ogle, LHP, Jensen Beach (Florida) HS 72. Chad Hockin, RHP, Cal State Fullerton 73. Daulton Jeffries, RHP, California 74. Mario Feliciano, C, Carlos Beltran Baseball Acad. (Puerto Rico) 75. Skylar Szynski, RHP, Penn HS (Mishawaka, Indiana) 76. Ben Bowden, LHP, Vanderbilt 77. Colby Woodmansee, IF, Arizona State 78. Peter Alonso, 1B, Florida 79. Nick Lodolo, LHP, Damien HS (La Verne, California) 80. Ryan Zeferjahn, RHP, Seaman HS (Topeka, Kansas) 81. Brett Cumberland, C, California 82. Matthias Dietz, RHP, John A. Logan College 83. Hudson Sanchez, 3B, Southlake (Texas) Carroll HS 84. Kyle Cody, RHP, Kentucky 85. Thomas Jones, OF, Laurens (South Carolina) HS 86. Nonie Williams, SS, Home-schooled (in Kansas) 87. Max Kranick, RHP, Valley View HS (Archbald, Pennsylvania) 88. Heath Quinn, OF, Samford 89. Drew Mendoza, SS, Lake Minneola (Florida) HS 90. Mike Shawaryn, RHP, Maryland 91. Dustin May, RHP, Northwest HS (Justin, Texas) 92. Conner Capel, OF, Seven Lakes HS (Katy, Texas) 93. Nolan Martinez, RHP, Culver City (California) HS 94. Akil Baddoo, OF, Salem HS (Conyers, Georgia) 95. Will Ethridge, RHP, Parkview HS (Lilburn, Georgia) 96. Tyler Mondile, RHP, Gloucester Catholic (Gloucester City, New Jersey) 97. Jose Miranda, 3B, Caguas (Puerto Rico) 98. Jeremy Martinez, C, USC 99. Davis Daniel, RHP, Saint James School (Montgomery, Alabama) 100. Dylan Carlson, 1B, Elk Grove (California) HS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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