Lillian Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 I agree with you, "Dizzy Sox". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Puk probably guaranteed himself a top 3 pick after today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ May 13, 2016 -> 06:27 PM) I dunno. Even though he has superstar upside, he hasn't done much to prove It. I'd much rather draft a batter that is raking (like Kyle Lewis and Corey Ray) because they've proven they can dominate their current competition, same with pitchers. Going for upside alone, without any results to back it up, is too risky to me. Look at Byron Buxton, wasn't he supposed to be a superstar? He's been a total scrub so far. Perez can stay at SS. That's extremely valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (Lillian @ May 14, 2016 -> 07:43 AM) Why are scouts so pessimistic about Collins being able to be a catcher? I don't read anything here that suggests he couldn't eventually develop into a decent catcher: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/5/10/1...f-miami-florida If he can, it won't be with the Sox. They haven't developed a position player to a MLB starter in about a decade. I would have 0 faith of them doing it with the hardest position to develop. Let's try something a little easier first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted May 15, 2016 Author Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 14, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) If he can, it won't be with the Sox. They haven't developed a position player to a MLB starter in about a decade. I would have 0 faith of them doing it with the hardest position to develop. Let's try something a little easier first. So you don't want the Sox to draft any position players ever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ May 15, 2016 -> 02:45 AM) So you don't want the Sox to draft any position players ever? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ May 14, 2016 -> 01:07 PM) Collins has the most advanced plate disciple in the entire class, and arguably the best over the last several drafts. He has strong hit and power tools, hits lefty, and he has improved every year within one of the best college programs around. Nothing is for certain but his profile suggests his floor is a solid if not spectacular lefty 1B/DH, with a ceiling of an offensive first catcher. I'd take that any day of the week, especially with the extra 1st round pick we get this year. All of this. You get big lefty power with an advanced approach at the plate that can likely be a fast mover. Even if he doesn't have a position other than DH, that skill set in the Sox lineup is incredibly valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Dunt @ May 15, 2016 -> 10:21 AM) All of this. You get big lefty power with an advanced approach at the plate that can likely be a fast mover. Even if he doesn't have a position other than DH, that skill set in the Sox lineup is incredibly valuable. Yep. Try him at catcher. If that doesn't work, try left, if not that, then try 1B. Hopefully his bat ends up being good enough to play at any position. Edited May 15, 2016 by soxfan2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted May 15, 2016 Share Posted May 15, 2016 Collins is my guy at 10 if Ray isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Collins, Sheffield, Reynolds, Bowden is the dream for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy esposito Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 (edited) QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 14, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) If he can, it won't be with the Sox. They haven't developed a position player to a MLB starter in about a decade. I would have 0 faith of them doing it with the hardest position to develop. Let's try something a little easier first. Beckham looked like he was going to make it he went the advanced track played well for a couple of seasons but didn't pan out in long run. I watched him in his first spring training it was obvious that he was good or special. Edited May 16, 2016 by sammy esposito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Who would Ray compare to in the bigs? Adam Eaton? AJ Pollock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ May 16, 2016 -> 08:05 AM) Who would Ray compare to in the bigs? Adam Eaton? AJ Pollock? Keith Law's comp was Ray Lankford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 If Ray/Mercer/Senzel aren't around, I'm pretty okay with Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ May 16, 2016 -> 10:50 AM) Keith Law's comp was Ray Lankford. Man, I never realized Lankford had such solid career numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 My guess as of today: 1. Phillies - Kyle Lewis 2. Reds - AJ Puk 3. Braves - Jason Groome 4. Rockies - Delvin Perez 5. Brewers - Corey Ray 6. A's - Nick Senzel 7. Marlins - Riley Pint 8. Padres - Blake Rutherford 9. Tigers - Zack Collins 10. Sox - Matt Manning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 17, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) My guess as of today: 1. Phillies - Kyle Lewis 2. Reds - AJ Puk 3. Braves - Jason Groome 4. Rockies - Delvin Perez 5. Brewers - Corey Ray 6. A's - Nick Senzel 7. Marlins - Riley Pint 8. Padres - Blake Rutherford 9. Tigers - Zack Collins 10. Sox - Matt Manning Moniak will definitely be in the top 10 somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 14, 2016 -> 07:41 PM) They haven't developed a position player to a MLB starter in about a decade. Sale and Hudson are about the extent of the quality starters they developed. Rodon is still in process and he was well developed when drafted. I doubt they'd have screwed up Schwarber had they chosen him instead. One issue with the hitters, though, is that the Sox draft a lot of raw hitters in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) If Collins' bat is as good as you hope, you probably don't want him catching anyway. If he could play 1B and DH and rake, that's not too bad. Frank Thomas was an awful 1B. You can outhit being bad defensively especially with a DH. Edited May 17, 2016 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I'm all on board with taking Collins #10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Law has his first mock draft up. Has Sox taking Dakota Hudson at 10. Also has Collins going 11 and Perez 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 18, 2016 -> 04:01 PM) Law has his first mock draft up. Has Sox taking Dakota Hudson at 10. Also has Collins going 11 and Perez 14. That would be frustrating, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 10. Chicago White Sox Dakota Hudson, RHP Mississippi State I've heard the White Sox are on big college arms, especially Hudson and Georgia right-hander Robert Tyler. That said, I wonder if they'd roll the dice on Pint, given their willingness to take guys with great stuff but unusual aspects to their deliveries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 18, 2016 -> 05:30 PM) 10. Chicago White Sox Dakota Hudson, RHP Mississippi State I've heard the White Sox are on big college arms, especially Hudson and Georgia right-hander Robert Tyler. That said, I wonder if they'd roll the dice on Pint, given their willingness to take guys with great stuff but unusual aspects to their deliveries. Tyler is someone they could possibly get at 26. And can we not bring in another UGa player with a first round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ May 18, 2016 -> 12:30 PM) 10. Chicago White Sox Dakota Hudson, RHP Mississippi State I've heard the White Sox are on big college arms, especially Hudson and Georgia right-hander Robert Tyler. That said, I wonder if they'd roll the dice on Pint, given their willingness to take guys with great stuff but unusual aspects to their deliveries. 26. Chicago White Sox: Gavin Lux, SS, Indian Trail Academy (Kenosha, Wisconsin) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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