fathom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 1, 2015 -> 02:09 AM) As s***ty as these last two games have been, a lot of you guys sure love jumping to conclusions over a handful of games. We have seen the same thing all year. Even in the games that were won, the team was making a ton of mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Condor13 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:10 PM) So he can ride the pine? He'd be our best option at 2B and 3B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Nice job Carroll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 This team has no f***ing leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:11 PM) He'd be our best option at 2B and 3B. he would hit under .200 on this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ May 1, 2015 -> 02:12 AM) This team has no f***ing leadership. If this was the NBA, Sale would be requesting a trade at the deadline. I wonder if how good his relationship is with the org right now. Edited May 1, 2015 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor13 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:11 PM) He'd be our best option at 2B and 3B. No one on the organization Will play over Micah, and you need a semi power hitter at 3B. He would be an improvement at 3B but not ideal in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:11 PM) We have seen the same thing all year. Even in the games that were won, the team was making a ton of mistakes. Well that part is true, but writing off individual players based on a handful of games or even a bad month is rather short-sighted. The offense in particular is way better than what we've seen in April. Same goes for Shark. Not saying this is a legit playoff contender, but no way we are close to this bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) The talent on the Sox this year has way more potential than those Twins teams did, especially on the mound. So you are saying Quintana and Samardjiza, and Sale tonight is because of the manager? You have stated Danks is one of the worst in the league, and I wouldn't think Noesi ranks too far ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 1, 2015 -> 03:17 AM) So you are saying Quintana and Samardjiza, and Sale tonight is because of the manager? You have stated Danks is one of the worst in the league, and I wouldn't think Noesi ranks too far ahead of him. No, the last two games is on the aces. In terms of a turn around, the Sox have a chance that those Twins never had based on pitching. A rotation of Sale, Shark, Q, Rodon and Noesi has a chance to dominate. Cooper probably should remember how to coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Thanks for hyping Ubaldo Jimenez and saying Duffy sucks....oh well, it's never Ventura's fault, it's the "bad" fans who dont blindly support this team and manager for seven years and counting without the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:20 PM) Thanks for hyping Ubaldo Jimenez and saying Duffy sucks....oh well, it's never Ventura's fault, it's the "bad" fans who dont blindly support this team and manager for seven years and counting without the playoffs. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:19 PM) No, the last two games is on the aces. In terms of a turn around, the Sox have a chance that those Twins never had based on pitching. A rotation of Sale, Shark, Q, Rodon and Noesi has a chance to dominate. Cooper probably should remember how to coach. I actually think Hahn should start over while a completely new, non-Sox related major league staff. Because it's going to be a lot easier to change the coaches than the players. If they are so worried about Sale and Rodon going down to elbow surgery they tell Tyler not to call for sliders in key situations...this team wont ever go anywhere. At best, both would be like Francisco Liriano post-surgery with that type of philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) Strange. You never answered the Ventura question posed earlier. Or ever. But keep dodging away...the issue won't disappear by itself. A non-decision by the front office is a form of decision, and this goes for Buddy Bell as well. Edited May 1, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 It is not Ventura's fault the last two game in particular. Both Shark and Sale must still be dizzy from thumps on the head from KC. How is it the managers fault when his aces give up six runs and seven runs respectively in one inning? Folks say the players have no fear of Robin. What should a player fear his manager? Leading by fear is not a good leadership trait. We are playing some sloppy ball but there is plenty of time left in this season for a turnaround. We are like 20 games into the season and already have the manager fired and 2/3rds of the players replaced. Just relax folks.... just relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Ventura shouldn't survive the weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:27 PM) You never aswered Ventura question posed earlier. Or ever. Keep dodging away...but the issue won't disappear by itself. A non-decision by the front office is a form of decision, and this goes for Buddy Bell as well. It was answered. But thank God they didn't fire Robin and hire that dope you liked that Texas hired. 7-14 with a $132 million payroll. He is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:30 PM) It was answered. But thank God they didn't fire Robin and hire that dope you liked that Texas hired. 7-14 with a $132 million payroll. He is awful. How's their disabled list looking? Thought so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Not all on Robin by any means, and especially these last two games where our top 2 made poopypants. But, the team needs a wakeup call. Is RV capable of delivering one? I do not think so. Sometimes change, for the sake of change, is what's needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I don't think the team looks like one that is playing badly because of its manager. And it isn't really playing that badly, last two games excepted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 09:34 PM) Not all on Robin by any means, and especially these last two games where our top 2 made poopypants. But, the team needs a wakeup call. Is RV capable of delivering one? I do not think so. Sometimes change, for the sake of change, is what's needed. Only wakeup call RV is capable of is at the hotel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Terrible, terrible line in CF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) How's their disabled list looking? Thought so. Or just try flipping Choo and Nelson Cruz. Andrus has been awful. Beltre...not sure whats up with him, but they are getting good production out of Fielder. (And Hamilton will have a resurgence as well...if Banny can handle Jose Guillen, he can deal with anything.) Im sure DA cant list a single member of their starting rotation who is healthy without looking it up. Profar is out as well. Darvish, of course, the biggest loss...their Chris Sale. Daniels should be fired first. Edited May 1, 2015 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 30, 2015 -> 10:36 PM) I don't think the team looks like one that is playing badly because of its manager. And it isn't really playing that badly, last two games excepted If you don't think this first month has been bad baseball...what exactly constitutes bad baseball? Did you just watch a Major League movie? The Sox have made pretty much every bone headed mistake in the book through the first few weeks. Edited May 1, 2015 by chitownsportsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Even if Sale was on tonight, the Sox have 2 runs. The offense needs to get goimg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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