Soxfest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2015 -> 04:34 PM) No one will come watch this boring team. Good thing season tix sales were strong Who wants to pay to see this crap nothing has changed in 2 and a half years. Edited May 2, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:35 PM) What is so hard about going on the road and beating Minnesota a game or two? Robin definitely could be fired after tomorrow's loss and nobody would see it as an over-reaction. Just for comedy sake I'd love to see Coop get the rest of the season then we hire Gardy or Leyland this offseason to work with our totally revamped team. Why wait? If Hahn believes he put a good roster together, go find someone who is willing to come in and shake this s*** up now like Mckeon did with Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:36 PM) Hahn could have had half a dozen gm jobs. If he doesn't have final say he should move on. The laroche move especially and the shark trade reek of kW meddling. LA Roche is the most kW free agent ever. Like I said, thats on him. If he doesn't have final say on moves, he should leave, otherwise, I'm blaming him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:36 PM) Hahn could have had half a dozen gm jobs. If he doesn't have final say he should move on. The laroche move especially and the shark trade reek of kW meddling. LA Roche is the most kW free agent ever. LaRoche reminds me of Swisher. Trade him as soon as trade season begins with the rest of last year's acquisitions. Time to stockpile some talent, baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2015 -> 03:35 PM) What is so hard about going on the road and beating Minnesota a game or two? Robin definitely could be fired after tomorrow's loss and nobody would see it as an over-reaction. Just for comedy sake I'd love to see Coop get the rest of the season then we hire Gardy or Leyland this offseason to work with our totally revamped team. They wont name Cooper and Leyland's too old, same with LaRussa in all likelihood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 2, 2015 -> 04:37 PM) Why wait? If Hahn believes he put a good roster together, go find someone who is willing to come in and shake this s*** up now like Mckeon did with Florida. Again Williams has to approve it....................Hahn does NOT have the final say on jack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 2, 2015 -> 03:38 PM) LaRoche reminds me of Swisher. Trade him as soon as trade season begins with the rest of last year's acquisitions. Time to stockpile some talent, baby. To get Marquez, Betemit and Jhonny Nunez back? They wont even get that without paying half his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:38 PM) Again Williams has to approve it....................Hahn does NOT have the final say on jack! Then he shouldn't be here. If he wants the title of GM, he has to be willing to take the blame. Otherwise, he should resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:39 PM) To get Marquez, Betemit and Jhonny Nunez back? They wont even get that without paying half his contract. I cant believe we have to watch him next year too. I really don't think I can get the extra innings package again next year is s*** doesn't change. Its just too frustrating to watch this s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:39 PM) Then he shouldn't be here. If he wants the title of GM, he has to be willing to take the blame. Otherwise, he should resign. I agree. I think he gave it a shot because like he said he values his family and he didn't want to uproot them. if he doesn't have final say he should move on he's a bright young mind well under 50. He could be a GM before then easily even if he falls on his face in Chicago. And, future employers will def be curious about what exactly his role was relative to KW in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 2, 2015 -> 09:41 PM) I cant believe we have to watch him next year too. I really don't think I can get the extra innings package again next year is s*** doesn't change. Its just too frustrating to watch this s***. Maybe he will retire after this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:44 PM) I agree. I think he gave it a shot because like he said he values his family and he didn't want to uproot them. if he doesn't have final say he should move on he's a bright young mind well under 50. He could be a GM before then easily even if he falls on his face in Chicago. And, future employers will def be curious about what exactly his role was relative to KW in Chicago. This organization is so f***ed. I just wish KW would finally leave so that we can begin to understand the hierarchy once and for all. The fact of the matter is that I'm staring at a last place team who disrespects the game with its play. Everyone involved bears responsibility. I'm not letting Hahn off the hook just because we all know KW is a moron. Edited May 2, 2015 by Butter Parque Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2015 -> 10:45 PM) Maybe he will retire after this year? Yeah right. Just like Dunn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:46 PM) This organization is so f***ed. I just wish KW would finally leave so that we can begin to understand the hierarchy once and for all. I agree. Most orgs have one guy as the GM or "Head of baseball operations". according to the org chart Hahn is the GM but KW is higher up as the "Executive Vice President". It's the same BS with GarPax. JR creates circles of influence he doesn't seem to trust a single GM to run his teams. It's stupid IMO. Or, he finally trusts someone and it's KW of all people, who was a fine GM don't get me wrong but the game has long passed him by. Today's game is so different than when the Sox won in 2005 that any knowledge he brings from then is almost useless imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Damnit! I was really looking forward to this season. It's so obvious this mix is not gelling that I really don't care what the f*** happens. Fire RV, keep RV, who cares. How about firing kenny williams for the absolute s*** condition of the farm system which has NO ONE to contribute to this dismal mlb roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 (edited) QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 2, 2015 -> 04:50 PM) Damnit! I was really looking forward to this season. It's so obvious this mix is not gelling that I really don't care what the f*** happens. Fire RV, keep RV, who cares. How about firing kenny williams for the absolute s*** condition of the farm system which has NO ONE to contribute to this dismal mlb roster. When Ventura is fired, Williams should resign same day and let Hahn be judged on his own body of work. Edited May 2, 2015 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 Rongey doesn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ May 2, 2015 -> 03:58 PM) Rongey doesn't get it. Reboot. Dump him and Boyer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:00 PM) Reboot. Dump him and Boyer as well. The Shark Cage is going to be hoppin! LAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2015 -> 06:00 PM) Reboot. Dump him and Boyer as well. Every single person in the org should be questioning their future imo. That includes all the training staff, the minor league staff, the scouts, the broadcast crew, the marketing guys (Boyer is a joke) and most of all Robin Ventura, Kenny Williams, and Rick Hahn. My preference is to fire Robin and see what happens but I also wouldn't mind seeing KW retire and the entire coaching staff, including Cooper, broomed out the door. Everyone's ass is way, way too comfy in their chairs in this org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ May 2, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) Rongey doesn't get it. He is in dreamland like rest of sheep in Sox management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butter Parque Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Entire Coaching staff needs to go. That includes Coop. Buddy Bell also needs to go. Entire minor league staff needs to go. You cant go over a decade without developing a position player and expect to keep your job. This is like clown college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 2, 2015 Author Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (Butter Parque @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:12 PM) Entire Coaching staff needs to go. That includes Coop. Buddy Bell also needs to go. Entire minor league staff needs to go. You cant go over a decade without developing a position player and expect to keep your job. This is like clown college. And then you look up...and there's Kenny and Jerry sitting there, watching the 05 DVDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) And then you look up...and there's Kenny and Jerry sitting there, watching the 05 DVDs. OMG, do we have any talented video production and writer folks here? Get this done. I am totally seeing it. KW and JR eating caviar watching the tapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 QUOTE (flavum @ May 2, 2015 -> 05:14 PM) And then you look up...and there's Kenny and Jerry sitting there, watching the 05 DVDs. True very true sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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